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the extraordinary phenomenon

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investigations council presents epic

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voyages come join us at the hitter and

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experience the great mysteries of the

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anything it's gonna be with you I this

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is Kevin cook and gonna fill on epic

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voyagers I've got an excellent guest

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tonight my co-host Heidi Hollis Anna

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wanna say hello to Ken Sherri and tell

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him we'll give him a good show but you

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doing okay Heidi I'm surviving little

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grumpy tonight but I'm like all right

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thanks for ruff there's a lot of

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allergies are you having big allergies

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up there and wheezing including myself

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it's been it's been kind of an odd

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season allergies are really really bad

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up here so bad as I remember it because

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I take what he call it zyrtec and then I

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have to augment it with benadryl - vally

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- well I know I know strong well I'm uh

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oh I don't know I'm pretty sturdy fella

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but I mean it's just I don't know Heidi

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it's it's just miserable

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but I mean sniffling and I also have one

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of those little inhalers I carry every

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now and then so I don't know it's it's

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just that way but yeah but anyhow it's

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worse than I can remember it in years

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past I guess it's well it's hot and dry

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it's dusty so I didn't think Chicago

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would actually be a bad place for

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allergies I guess it just is I don't

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know Midwest they have a lot of pollen

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stuff and ragweed ragweed is like the

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one that really takes people out but I

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don't know if you saw this report that

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those antibacterial soaps are going to

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be made to not be allowed as

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next year sometime I believe and really

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yeah one of the reasons is because it

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increases the likelihood that you'll get

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allergies or make them worse um like

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what well I mean I do use them a lot but

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Jihu why would that have anything to do

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I don't know

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strangest thing I'm like well heck that

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alone explains maybe part of why well

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that's why that's why well now the

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subject matter tonight is going to be on

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the hat man and some of the other issues

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you cover in your books and we might

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throw a little of something on Marian

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apparitions but first I thought we might

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do a couple news pieces and like we

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usually do on our show but Kevin Cook

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show on Tuesdays and and I don't want to

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blame or this too much but Trump

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supposedly made an insensitive call to

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some mother of a dead soldier and

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listened at and supposedly with half a

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dozen people were listening in on the

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call in the car and I don't know Heidi

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this is a bit much even for Trump I mean

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in other words I'm taking Trump side at

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this because he's not the most sensitive

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individual no but I think Trump could

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sneeze and they'd mischaracterized the

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sneeze is what I'm saying I mean I guess

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it was just they were literally on their

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way to go receive the body of the slain

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soldier and it was a sensitive time I

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guess you know well I know well yeah but

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here's the thing about it is there's a

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certain hypocrisy there because Bush

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stuck his nose in it you know George

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Bush Jr's yeah yeah but here's the thing

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this lowdown got us in a phony war over

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there that even Clinton said was

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ridiculous he's responsible for probably

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4,000 people dying for no reason and

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yeah so you know it's like easier to

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know what really took place but it you

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know several of the family members are

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vouching this one but seven and you know

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honestly it's kind of the words I could

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see Trump seeing if he said it you know

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stand by it and be like oops I'm sorry

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instead of saying you know that lady's a

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liar it's like just hey it sounds like

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your words Trump you know we all say

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things that we shouldn't say and you

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know just just back it up and say oops

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well I guess I guess so Heidi but it's

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just arson because you know I I mean I

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like to say I'm not trying to defend the

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man but I mean enough there's enough on

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that and also I'll get off the Trump

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issue in a minute but what I'm saying is

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Geraldo Rivera did get back from Puerto

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Rico and he on no uncertain terms said

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they're they're damming the federal

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efforts unfairly because this was basic

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basically Geraldo who's got no dog in

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the hunt he said that the place was a

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little nightmare to begin with this is

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another seventy billion dollars in debt

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Heidi before that before the storm and

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their infrastructure was you know it's

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kind of like cardboard shacks

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practically held together with baling

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wire so in other words it isn't like you

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know a modern town like Houston or oh

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you know somewhere in Florida I mean

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this thing you could have a heavy gust

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well I have been since I was a kid but

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I'm just saying that they're talking

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about the interior of the island and

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that's where most of the hardship isn't

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restoring services and all that so to

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blame Trump for that is like you know

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come on now it's like go to a garbage

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dump and complain it's not cleaned up

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you know I believe they said only nine

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percent of the water needs have been met

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so the people are literally oh my gosh

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go digging into wells from business

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waste waters I I just

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that's true but how is that trust fall

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but how was that Trump's fall we would

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not allow taxes to go through that

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that's the problem it's like an office

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since January

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he's supposed to have solved the water

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problem in Puerto Rico take it from the

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storm it wasn't a problem beforehand

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there's no running water well honestly

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out of water or anything like that and

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they never were in a water shortage what

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I'm saying is you're talking like

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third-world country conditions and if it

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isn't like you know Dallas Texas in two

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days it's Trump's fault see that's what

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I'm saying

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that's certainly isn't the interior of

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it it certainly is I didn't think so but

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they're American citizens know it

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nonetheless it's like they just want the

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basics water keep the electricity back

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yes but this isn't this is something

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this isn't something you can wave a

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magic wand and it's done in a month and

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everybody's singing in the sunshine it's

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not like that it's location but I mean

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my goodness

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I think Haiti had a better response when

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they went through a storm and you know

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goodness it's just I hate to see it I

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know several people that live over there

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and Families can't even reach out

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because they don't have any phone

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service to do so and it was like see

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what see I mean it's damages happen I

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mean he you know you live in a

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poverty-stricken Island things happen

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they're not seventy billion dollars in

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debt because they're uptight and out of

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sight I mean they're not yeah why does

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to on infrastructure spending it does

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too but any rate I'm just saying that

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that's an issue that came up and Oh on a

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conspiratorial note get this George

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Soros you know the little evil behind

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the scenes billionaire and all that he

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sold MGM stock short and if you don't

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know what selling stock short is you're

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basically betting it's gonna go down two

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months two months before that Las Vegas

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and MGM is like the casino company up

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there I mean it's uh you know you

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wouldn't want a bet that they would lose

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because they're always jammed to the

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rafters with gamblers so what I'm saying

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is that that was very suspicious I don't

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know it's fueled the conspiratorial

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fires it's very suspicious it made me

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mean nothing in the whole scheme of

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things but you gotta admit that was very

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unusual but any rate that's all the

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non-porn on the paranormal stuff but now

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there was a ghost or seemingly a ghostly

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photo taken it's on the coast Coast AM

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website it's on their little news pieces

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and you know I can't speak to the

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legitimacy of that particular one

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they've got several on there actually

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now but what I'm saying is Heidi with

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all these closed-circuit TV cameras all

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over I mean certainly they can't all be

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like bogus DUP witnesses and numbers

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kind of well that's what it does to me

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too I mean and also it's not just

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security cameras they've had things

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picked up by even oddball cameras like

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oh you know hunters will put out cameras

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in the field just to see I guess if they

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trespassers are odd game or whatever's

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on those and they've had some really

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weird II looking little creatures show

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up in the background and uh on some of

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this sod it's not where you can call

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security feed but unless Kagame's eat or

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whatever you want to call it and farm

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cameras now there were some all kinds of

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different directions and and ID also

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some of this footage they've had seen

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odd odd anomalies on has been from

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municipal cameras that you know nobody's

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gonna finagle anything on so I mean

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Heidi I guess you know you don't want to

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believe just everything but I mean you

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have to be kind of a Deadhead not to

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believe there's picking up picking up

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Stu

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right right no I hear ya oh that's

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that's wild I I think I really dig those

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types of video footage that you know

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just so happens to be like a trail cam

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or something and it's like a trail cam

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yeah yeah yeah well it is and I guess I

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guess from from witnesses I've talked to

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you know like we mentioned on our show

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one night there's a hotel in Fort Worth

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called the hotel Texas and it dates way

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back see that Fort Worth has one little

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historical stockyards district where I

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guess way back to antiquity they you

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know drive the herds into Fort Worth to

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sell the cattle and so forth so on and

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then the Cowboys would go to like an

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entertainment district and you know

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drink and carry on all this and this

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hotel Texas is a long-standing

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institution there I mean it dates back

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Oh Heidi this 1840s or 50s or something

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way back okay yeah

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and for those who've never heard about

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this I talked to this lady who's a very

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good Christian gal I mean let's put this

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way out there's not many people that are

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full of baloney they work two jobs she

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worked at the Six Flags Texas as a

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marketing person and then she worked ten

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years as the night manager at this hotel

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Texas and she's a big Christian all that

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stuff I mean she and she didn't write

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any books and she wasn't trying to beef

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up attendance at the hotel because it

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was hard I mean she I asked her so I'd

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heard these rumors he said Kevin without

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question without question without fail

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its haunted Wow

271
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I didn't ever ask her about

272
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closed-circuit TV cameras at the time

273
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because about 10 years ago 12 years ago

274
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I talked to her but but she I mean the

275
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maids would make up a room and then

276
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they'd lock it up and then of course you

277
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wouldn't mess with it until they've

278
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rear-ended a because the maids aren't

279
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gonna want to mess up their own work but

280
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she'd go back and stuff would be thrown

281
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all over the room and you know water

282
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running or so I mean just little cranky

283
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kind of things there had to be

284
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absolutely frustrating as a worker there

285
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oh well you know the major that I want

286
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to ruin their own job right exactly and

287
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then and then as a side kicker this

288
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woman said that after all those years of

289
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working there what they would do is they

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would they come back and the the guests

291
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would see shadowy figures of cowboys in

292
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the hallway you know like a ghostly

293
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figure if you will Wow seemingly with

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period dress and all that and you know

295
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obviously the guests aren't going to say

296
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that it's some money off the rumor ad or

297
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something I mean it's just it's just

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part and parcel of it is what I'm saying

299
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and that's one of thousands of places

300
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that you could say the same thing about

301
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I guess Heidi it's kind of like that

302
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place up your way in Chicago as the

303
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white lady hitchhiker lady in white

304
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hitchhiker or whatever it is near that

305
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cemetery that sounds familiar yeah how

306
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long is that that's been going on for

307
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what forever where they spoke up hello

308
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lady and white haunting scattered all

309
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over the country oh yeah there's one

310
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down here yeah lady died on her wedding

311
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night just before her wedding she killed

312
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herself or she lost her love and yeah

313
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it's like similar stories all over the

314
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place and it's like what a strange theme

315
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and to be so consistent and to have so

316
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many witnesses by so many different

317
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outlets and locations it's that is the

318
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Missal a lot of bad wedding yeah a lot

319
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of bad wedding feedback yeah well now

320
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there was something funny and I know

321
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I've been married twice of course but

322
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what I'm saying is there's a real funny

323
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oh one of the little action movie or

324
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what TV series I saw recently they were

325
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talking to some old cop series they're

326
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talking to some guy this is yeah half

327
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the marriages don't work out the other

328
00:16:44,110 --> 00:16:41,029
half people are miserable that about

329
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but true it is it is well they have one

330
00:16:52,780 --> 00:16:50,570
here in Dallas it's called the the lady

331
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of White Rock Lake or something and

332
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she's dressed in white as well and I

333
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don't know whether she jumped in the

334
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lake

335
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committing suicide something along those

336
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lines from a negative America marital

337
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experience but it's always there's

338
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always some kind of white wearing woman

339
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there's something like yeah why can't

340
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you be wearing jeans and exactly evening

341
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dress or something yeah I know I know

342
00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:23,750
but I mean this is this is so well

343
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reputed that it's like if you mentioned

344
00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:27,949
it's one of the local residents it's a

345
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fairly nice little neighborhood of

346
00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:31,550
Dallas fairly affluent and the lake is

347
00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:34,760
big but it's big enough and they say

348
00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:37,250
yeah it's as obviously that's true is

349
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you know birds in the sky I mean it just

350
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is but I guess I don't mean to dwell on

351
00:17:49,419 --> 00:17:47,600
that too much but I guess it's just it's

352
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just odd because it came up today on

353
00:17:55,090 --> 00:17:52,190
that news piece on coasts and and some

354
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others recently and I guess I was

355
00:17:58,690 --> 00:17:56,660
thinking about it reflecting on a

356
00:18:00,610 --> 00:17:58,700
secular how could anybody not believe in

357
00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:00,620
ghosts with all the evidence not just a

358
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camera thing but just the visual

359
00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:05,420
sightings overall as many here's not

360
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:08,000
everybody's a fruitcake I've even seen a

361
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:12,650
ghost you know it took me by surprise

362
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and it I was taking an apartment complex

363
00:18:22,090 --> 00:18:19,940
and there's a lot of people who died in

364
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that little apartment complex I guess

365
00:18:30,340 --> 00:18:27,880
and it wasn't really scary it was just

366
00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:30,350
like a little dumpy Casper the ghost

367
00:18:38,580 --> 00:18:34,130
looking coast but my business partner

368
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:42,580
no no it wasn't and uh it just was

369
00:18:46,990 --> 00:18:45,650
visible for maybe oh I don't know seven

370
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or eight seconds long enough for you to

371
00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:50,630
see it and and you know we looked at it

372
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:52,040
analytically there's no way it was a

373
00:18:56,110 --> 00:18:54,890
projection from anything or shadow or I

374
00:18:57,900 --> 00:18:56,120
think because it didn't look like a

375
00:19:00,570 --> 00:18:57,910
shadow it looked like

376
00:19:02,580 --> 00:19:00,580
like it had a very dark charcoal gray

377
00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:02,590
outline and in the inside it was the

378
00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:05,710
misty kind of wispy smoky kind of look

379
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:07,809
but it had an outline those what I'm

380
00:19:16,049 --> 00:19:13,210
saying and you I've never seen well it

381
00:19:18,270 --> 00:19:16,059
happened I mean it matter of fact I

382
00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:18,280
think what happened was cuz he was

383
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:19,960
staying with me for a while because he's

384
00:19:27,870 --> 00:19:22,240
gotten divorced I let him flop there for

385
00:19:30,330 --> 00:19:27,880
a while and what happened was uh it was

386
00:19:32,669 --> 00:19:30,340
fooling with things on his little

387
00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:32,679
dresser and you know it like he's one of

388
00:19:36,919 --> 00:19:35,110
these nut cases it's really I like that

389
00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:36,929
obsessive compulsive person that always

390
00:19:42,899 --> 00:19:39,370
puts their stuff lined up in the same

391
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normal contour you know yeah and it

392
00:19:49,710 --> 00:19:45,520
would like move itself around on the

393
00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:49,720
dresser you know and I obviously I

394
00:19:53,010 --> 00:19:51,100
wouldn't do it I'm not gonna mess with

395
00:19:54,020 --> 00:19:53,020
what I care about his little paranoid

396
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:54,030
buddy

397
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:56,650
Rosie's but but I mean in other words

398
00:20:03,120 --> 00:19:59,919
stuff would move around it obviously had

399
00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:03,130
to do with some outside force and it

400
00:20:06,690 --> 00:20:04,750
wasn't because the Air Force jets were

401
00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:06,700
going over near the base it wasn't that

402
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:07,990
I mean that wasn't going over that

403
00:20:11,850 --> 00:20:10,450
powerfully so in other words it was

404
00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:11,860
doing the moving of the object thing and

405
00:20:15,149 --> 00:20:13,809
then finally it showed itself and that

406
00:20:17,310 --> 00:20:15,159
was kind of like its coup de Grasse

407
00:20:20,779 --> 00:20:17,320
because after that nothing ever moved

408
00:20:23,850 --> 00:20:20,789
and nothing was ever seen in there again

409
00:20:25,950 --> 00:20:23,860
so I get I guess I had the only place

410
00:20:30,299 --> 00:20:25,960
where a ghost was too bored to haunt

411
00:20:32,039 --> 00:20:30,309
anymore whatever greener pastures but

412
00:20:35,159 --> 00:20:32,049
that did happen and I got can attest to

413
00:20:37,409 --> 00:20:35,169
that I'm pretty good witness so anyway

414
00:20:40,590 --> 00:20:37,419
that but now you've written lots of

415
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:40,600
books I mean you're just a glutton for

416
00:20:47,130 --> 00:20:44,770
punishment in the book how many have you

417
00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:47,140
written all together I have six

418
00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:52,049
published and I have about five five

419
00:20:59,730 --> 00:20:57,100
yeah great scoff I D I know that's just

420
00:21:01,980 --> 00:20:59,740
a lot of work how do you find time to do

421
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:01,990
it all that editing and all that awful

422
00:21:09,659 --> 00:21:07,690
stuff you know it's it's odd but it's

423
00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:09,669
something that just kind of burns in me

424
00:21:13,980 --> 00:21:11,230
to get done and and

425
00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:13,990
don't isolate myself as I once did I go

426
00:21:21,210 --> 00:21:17,320
and I go to like a Starbucks or a Barnes

427
00:21:24,539 --> 00:21:21,220
& Noble and write and draw there or

428
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:24,549
whatever so so yeah it's kind of I I

429
00:21:30,030 --> 00:21:27,280
think the the most beautiful thing is a

430
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,040
blank sheet of paper I just love it or a

431
00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:32,559
blank screen just fail to type whatever

432
00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:34,929
the heck I want yeah or to draw whatever

433
00:21:38,430 --> 00:21:35,470
I want

434
00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:38,440
it's fun it's it's exciting and to know

435
00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:41,230
that I'm able to do it too it's like you

436
00:21:46,169 --> 00:21:43,809
know that's good of course yeah well I

437
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:46,179
wrote book the Marian apparitions are

438
00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:48,850
real and but that was such an onerous

439
00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:50,350
thing and I did it because I felt I was

440
00:21:56,299 --> 00:21:53,679
meant to do it but Oh Heidi if it claims

441
00:21:58,799 --> 00:21:56,309
if I had a choice between doing that or

442
00:22:00,810 --> 00:21:58,809
working in a Pennsylvania coal mine I

443
00:22:01,230 --> 00:22:00,820
would take the coal mine and be happy to

444
00:22:03,390 --> 00:22:01,240
take it

445
00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:03,400
instead of writing up I feel that

446
00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:07,720
strongly not that I'm a bad writer but

447
00:22:17,940 --> 00:22:15,910
it just is onerous well now the editing

448
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,950
was not exactly yes I would have to say

449
00:22:21,419 --> 00:22:20,080
that would be the the researching wasn't

450
00:22:26,460 --> 00:22:21,429
that bad I've always kind of liked

451
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:26,470
researching stuff but that oh well

452
00:22:31,710 --> 00:22:29,250
that's what we could collaborate yeah

453
00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:31,720
but no I didn't mind the researching to

454
00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:36,190
the editing was just unpleasant and but

455
00:22:40,169 --> 00:22:38,049
but I I have to take my hat off to you

456
00:22:43,289 --> 00:22:40,179
to actually produce six books with five

457
00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:43,299
more in the wings yeah I'm gonna have

458
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:45,790
one coming out pretty soon I was

459
00:22:50,190 --> 00:22:48,490
debating if I should let it come out in

460
00:22:52,919 --> 00:22:50,200
January since we're so close to the end

461
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:52,929
of the year but sometimes you know it

462
00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:55,450
looks like things will line up well

463
00:23:01,409 --> 00:22:58,020
enough for it to be released in November

464
00:23:03,060 --> 00:23:01,419
late November or early December so I'm I

465
00:23:06,690 --> 00:23:03,070
just have a lot of things to pull

466
00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:06,700
together I got I got sidetracked with

467
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:08,830
what what's the subject matter of that

468
00:23:15,690 --> 00:23:13,090
book talking about for a while it to get

469
00:23:18,020 --> 00:23:15,700
out and it's called the other F word and

470
00:23:19,950 --> 00:23:18,030
it's on the topic of faith because oh

471
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:19,960
you know I get a lot of people that

472
00:23:24,430 --> 00:23:23,440
write me about demonic stuff coming into

473
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:24,440
their home

474
00:23:28,510 --> 00:23:26,330
they do and no but I'm not into that

475
00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:28,520
religious thing I'm like well then you

476
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:30,110
might as well throw a shoe or a book at

477
00:23:33,670 --> 00:23:32,090
it because if you don't have faith

478
00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:33,680
behind you how are you gonna fight

479
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:35,390
something that can walk through your

480
00:23:44,410 --> 00:23:39,170
wall and you're shooting or something

481
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:44,420
right oh yeah something that you know is

482
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:48,410
evil you have an inkling where its

483
00:23:53,620 --> 00:23:51,200
source comes from that right there

484
00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:53,630
should give you the faith of more

485
00:23:58,300 --> 00:23:55,910
mustard seeds than you can muster to

486
00:24:00,460 --> 00:23:58,310
know that there's an opposite and

487
00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:00,470
opposing force to that or yet at least

488
00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:03,950
better hope so so right yeah well I

489
00:24:06,940 --> 00:24:05,420
agree with that I'm at agreement without

490
00:24:11,380 --> 00:24:06,950
of course I've experienced the negative

491
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,390
side of it too and well without

492
00:24:16,210 --> 00:24:14,480
intentionally having it I mean I you

493
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:16,220
know what's never dabbled in negative

494
00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:18,890
things like black masses or anything but

495
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:23,480
I I just did it via martial arts coogee

496
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:25,970
curry exercises I mean I was no more

497
00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:27,850
thinking about anything negative than

498
00:24:33,610 --> 00:24:31,550
you know baseball but what I'm saying is

499
00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:33,620
yeah people that mess with stuff like

500
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:36,860
this Ouija board thing and some of this

501
00:24:51,610 --> 00:24:39,490
meditational aspects even if it seems

502
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:51,620
benign it isn't to their faith and how

503
00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:53,570
to get it because people just doubt

504
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:55,430
their faith too much or they you don't

505
00:25:00,610 --> 00:24:57,770
know if it's right or how do you test

506
00:25:02,050 --> 00:25:00,620
that and and it's like well you know

507
00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:02,060
what the only way that you could figure

508
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:04,340
that out is by analyzing a few things

509
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:06,080
and I thought I would have fun with the

510
00:25:11,170 --> 00:25:08,930
topic sorry I drew comics put some jokes

511
00:25:13,570 --> 00:25:11,180
in and but also got down to the

512
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:13,580
nitty-gritty with that book and try to

513
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:15,200
help people decipher for themselves

514
00:25:19,570 --> 00:25:16,490
where they stand with their faith

515
00:25:21,490 --> 00:25:19,580
because it's a serious topic but it

516
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:21,500
should be a fun topic too because too

517
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:24,050
many people get freaked out and are

518
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:25,370
terrified that they're gonna do

519
00:25:29,380 --> 00:25:26,840
something wrong when it comes to faith

520
00:25:32,140 --> 00:25:29,390
it's like you know the one area in our

521
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:32,150
lives where as flawed as can be as human

522
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:33,710
beings and the one area in our lives

523
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:35,570
that we are not supposed to be flawed in

524
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:38,090
is our faith in

525
00:25:42,490 --> 00:25:40,880
and it's like hold on God knew what the

526
00:25:44,740 --> 00:25:42,500
heck he was doing when he made us he

527
00:25:47,710 --> 00:25:44,750
knew we were a hot mess he knew we would

528
00:25:50,350 --> 00:25:47,720
be flawed in the way that we see to our

529
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:50,360
faith and go about our faith so I'm

530
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:51,890
trying to encourage people to give

531
00:25:57,130 --> 00:25:55,130
themselves a break rewind take another

532
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,140
step in this direction or that one and

533
00:26:01,810 --> 00:25:59,600
you know get right with it to where they

534
00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:01,820
feel comfortable instead of being so

535
00:26:08,530 --> 00:26:04,190
darn hard on themselves so the other F

536
00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:08,540
word and the subtitle is how to find

537
00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:10,640
faith and laugh at yourself at the same

538
00:26:17,410 --> 00:26:15,710
time because it's important it really is

539
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:17,420
and I don't see how people to go through

540
00:26:22,330 --> 00:26:20,480
life just winging it they need to figure

541
00:26:24,370 --> 00:26:22,340
it out well I know what you're saying I

542
00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:24,380
think I've been fortunate and I've had

543
00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:26,300
some very powerful religious experiences

544
00:26:30,850 --> 00:26:27,950
which obviously can't obviously came

545
00:26:32,740 --> 00:26:30,860
from sources outside me I mean so

546
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:32,750
demonstrative that maybe we'll talk

547
00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:34,310
about it later but it's so demonstrative

548
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:37,070
that you'd have to be a nitwit to not

549
00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:38,810
believe it was from the benign side of

550
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:41,870
things and I've been fortunate because

551
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:44,240
most people don't have that not dermat

552
00:26:48,790 --> 00:26:45,530
and you've had those kind of things -

553
00:26:51,420 --> 00:26:48,800
not dramatic clear-cut smack you in the

554
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:51,430
face with a tuna kind of experiences

555
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:54,890
alright and that that is hard I can say

556
00:26:59,650 --> 00:26:56,690
I've had that and you've had it it's

557
00:27:01,360 --> 00:26:59,660
appreciated appreciated where a divine

558
00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:01,370
I've actually experienced it in that

559
00:27:07,210 --> 00:27:04,430
that's something a lot of people haven't

560
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,220
been able to say oh yeah I feel like

561
00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:09,200
cheated in my faith and I always say

562
00:27:14,350 --> 00:27:12,590
that because I was weak in it I you know

563
00:27:17,860 --> 00:27:14,360
questioned things or didn't dive all

564
00:27:19,930 --> 00:27:17,870
into it either and you know that I had

565
00:27:21,610 --> 00:27:19,940
these Jesus encounters which I wrote

566
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:21,620
about in my book called Jesus it's no

567
00:27:29,710 --> 00:27:24,650
joke highest-rated book I've got up

568
00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:29,720
there it was number one for eight months

569
00:27:36,790 --> 00:27:32,750
and in near-death experience category

570
00:27:39,010 --> 00:27:36,800
and it's like I I really needed to you

571
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:39,020
know figure out where I stood in my

572
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:40,850
faith little did I know how important it

573
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:42,770
was it was paranormal source I'm looking

574
00:27:49,810 --> 00:27:46,090
into this tough but it was important and

575
00:27:51,730 --> 00:27:49,820
yeah so I I think that you know people

576
00:27:53,950 --> 00:27:51,740
need to come full circle as I

577
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:53,960
I needed to in order to even speak on

578
00:27:59,500 --> 00:27:56,960
the paranormal well I agree with that I

579
00:28:01,030 --> 00:27:59,510
agree with that like I say the trouble

580
00:28:03,070 --> 00:28:01,040
is I you know of course I don't want to

581
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:03,080
beat the drum too strong for the

582
00:28:08,110 --> 00:28:06,110
Catholic Church but you know I had some

583
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:08,120
religious experiences early on but well

584
00:28:13,930 --> 00:28:10,640
as a child but it was only later in life

585
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:13,940
when I was pulled packing by the hair

586
00:28:17,950 --> 00:28:15,170
into the Catholic Church that I

587
00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:17,960
experienced so many things and I'm not

588
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:18,920
saying you have to be a Catholic

589
00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:21,440
obviously like you're not but I mean to

590
00:28:25,419 --> 00:28:23,390
experience them but it it went hand in

591
00:28:29,410 --> 00:28:25,429
hand with my experience and I was

592
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:29,420
thankful I did have it but well we'll

593
00:28:33,549 --> 00:28:31,490
talk about that later perhaps but but no

594
00:28:37,419 --> 00:28:33,559
I feel for people who have not been

595
00:28:39,310 --> 00:28:37,429
exposed to a demonstrative take it to

596
00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:39,320
the bank we live this experience it's a

597
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,800
life-changing thing to build your faith

598
00:28:46,570 --> 00:28:44,720
around in other words without having

599
00:28:50,049 --> 00:28:46,580
anything it can't seem pretty Drive

600
00:28:52,450 --> 00:28:50,059
right and I do appreciate that and I

601
00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:52,460
appreciate what I've experienced but boy

602
00:28:59,169 --> 00:28:54,800
the average person has got to pretty

603
00:29:01,450 --> 00:28:59,179
well make it you know one faith alone

604
00:29:04,150 --> 00:29:01,460
without something to boy it up and that

605
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:04,160
is hard and I got obviously look at all

606
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:05,809
the miracles they had in the Bible they

607
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,650
had those miracles for a reason to shake

608
00:29:12,490 --> 00:29:11,120
people by the shoulders and say look

609
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:12,500
look look you understand this this is

610
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:16,010
not normal comes here you know like like

611
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:17,690
Jesus with the loaves and the fishes I

612
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:21,110
mean things did happen here right and

613
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:23,510
I've those were always raised enough

614
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:25,010
that I raise people from the dead for

615
00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:26,809
goodness sakes any rate we should be

616
00:29:30,490 --> 00:29:28,190
coming to our first break right now

617
00:29:39,730 --> 00:29:30,500
let's take it in though we'll be right

618
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:39,740
back three to go well Heidi I don't know

619
00:29:45,940 --> 00:29:42,170
I guess like I say some people just have

620
00:29:47,260 --> 00:29:45,950
to make it on dry faith but see that was

621
00:29:50,290 --> 00:29:47,270
the trouble in the Episcopal Church

622
00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:50,300
there was never any fire in lightning

623
00:29:54,010 --> 00:29:52,220
like there is in the Catholic Church the

624
00:29:56,860 --> 00:29:54,020
Baptist Church or some other churches

625
00:29:59,260 --> 00:29:56,870
it's I mean I'm not saying there aren't

626
00:30:02,320 --> 00:29:59,270
good Episcopalians out there but let's

627
00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:02,330
put it this way I never heard of the

628
00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:05,480
things outside of the in the Episcopal

629
00:30:08,410 --> 00:30:05,750
Church

630
00:30:09,790 --> 00:30:08,420
that have occurred that I've experienced

631
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:09,800
in the Catholic Church they experience

632
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:16,490
every day I mean it's just I'd like to

633
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:19,600
write a book similar to what your

634
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:23,570
topical issues you write on about about

635
00:30:29,530 --> 00:30:25,520
Eucharistic miracles and things I mean

636
00:30:32,290 --> 00:30:29,540
stuff that is so tied together with

637
00:30:34,060 --> 00:30:32,300
science that you'd have to be a nitwit

638
00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:34,070
to not realize it's true like we had a

639
00:30:38,110 --> 00:30:36,230
show on our on the Kevin cook show on

640
00:30:39,550 --> 00:30:38,120
inception radio about Eucharistic

641
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:39,560
miracles where Heidi I'm talking about

642
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:42,350
stuff that's been submitted to 200

643
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:45,370
different talk Turkish you know and

644
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:47,840
we're elements of the host that's in the

645
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:50,960
mass or are bleeding and there's no way

646
00:30:54,970 --> 00:30:53,120
that was fabricated I mean they've had

647
00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:54,980
its in storage some of them for a couple

648
00:30:59,530 --> 00:30:57,710
hundred years and it shows to be living

649
00:31:03,070 --> 00:30:59,540
tissue and so forth and so on cardiac

650
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:03,080
tissue with that and I mean you can't

651
00:31:07,690 --> 00:31:05,360
deny it I mean it's just like it's right

652
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:07,700
there it's just like you know it's like

653
00:31:12,490 --> 00:31:09,050
your truck when you get into it in the

654
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:12,500
morning it's there all right and that's

655
00:31:27,670 --> 00:31:22,480
the story of Jesus having shown his

656
00:31:29,380 --> 00:31:27,680
wounds on his hands and saying you know

657
00:31:31,810 --> 00:31:29,390
blessed are those who believe and have

658
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:31,820
not seen me so yes you know your

659
00:31:37,510 --> 00:31:35,450
miracles are cool but I find that

660
00:31:39,670 --> 00:31:37,520
sometimes people look for these things

661
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:39,680
in order to increase their faith and and

662
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:41,120
that's where I have a bit of a problem

663
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:43,910
because it's like you should be able to

664
00:31:50,020 --> 00:31:47,570
be fine without looking searching

665
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:50,030
certified I don't know I know I know

666
00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:51,650
what you're saying blessed are those who

667
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:52,820
haven't seen and believed yeah I

668
00:31:57,700 --> 00:31:55,310
understand that I guess what it is

669
00:32:01,300 --> 00:31:57,710
though Heidi is that the regular

670
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,310
day-to-day circumstances are so New

671
00:32:05,260 --> 00:32:02,960
Yorkers knew a good deal when they see

672
00:32:08,290 --> 00:32:05,270
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673
00:32:11,230 --> 00:32:08,300
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674
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:11,240
and get four lines for $40 per line per

675
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:11,910
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676
00:32:18,650 --> 00:32:14,850
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677
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:18,660
4g LTE data the deal you want easy as

678
00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:20,910
can be on New York's number one network

679
00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:23,790
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680
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:27,030
for all now $40 per month a value for a

681
00:32:37,310 --> 00:32:34,610
suffocating you no job issues money

682
00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:37,320
issues marital issues blah blah blah

683
00:32:42,890 --> 00:32:39,750
health issues whatever that it's like

684
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:42,900
people are just bombarded with the cares

685
00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:46,110
of the world and understandably you know

686
00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:49,080
I mean you know things are not spy t'v

687
00:32:53,060 --> 00:32:50,580
all the SAS things are not good

688
00:32:54,770 --> 00:32:53,070
economically people don't make near the

689
00:32:58,220 --> 00:32:54,780
money for their jobs that they used to

690
00:33:00,050 --> 00:32:58,230
allowing for inflation and you know

691
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:00,060
that's a difficulty factor in their

692
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:03,360
regular lives and what one out of two

693
00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:05,130
marriages bites the dust so I mean

694
00:33:09,530 --> 00:33:06,870
that's another thing that keeps people's

695
00:33:11,630 --> 00:33:09,540
lives fomented up so I mean there's so

696
00:33:14,990 --> 00:33:11,640
many things distract you from God and

697
00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:15,000
godly issues that I can understand that

698
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:18,180
there's problems and I do feel very

699
00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:20,970
thankful for your experiences and for

700
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:23,220
mine and other people's that they don't

701
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:32,310
have to guess they don't have to because

702
00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:38,970
it's just like when they see a UFO and

703
00:33:43,850 --> 00:33:40,830
they think eyes are playing tricks on me

704
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:43,860
and I see it for myself it's very much

705
00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:47,250
like you know I got shook from the

706
00:33:51,860 --> 00:33:49,260
inside out I knew what it was I had

707
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:51,870
experienced and I knew who I experienced

708
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:55,890
and yes Jesus Christ and for me you

709
00:34:00,260 --> 00:33:58,290
haven't been a huge skeptic I was such a

710
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:00,270
skeptic I wrote about it in my first

711
00:34:08,060 --> 00:34:05,850
book the secret war how people who would

712
00:34:11,950 --> 00:34:08,070
say that oh jesus is in my bowl of soup

713
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:11,960
or a tree trunk and I'm like no yeah

714
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:14,490
ridiculous that I'd actually criticized

715
00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:17,850
it in my book saying you know this this

716
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:20,220
is but if Jesus were around I think I

717
00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:21,510
would have seen him by now I know people

718
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:23,399
are seeing them in the cloud you know it

719
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:23,609
is

720
00:34:30,919 --> 00:34:25,649
you know well they call that they call

721
00:34:36,249 --> 00:34:30,929
that matrix experience that I did seeing

722
00:34:39,289 --> 00:34:36,259
him I was very much moved and for me to

723
00:34:41,539 --> 00:34:39,299
be as moved as I was I had to go and

724
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:41,549
rewrite that chapter though I left parts

725
00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:44,129
of my skepticism in there and the change

726
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:46,470
and why the change happened because just

727
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:48,179
before I put out the secret war because

728
00:34:54,289 --> 00:34:51,200
when I'd had my Jesus encounters and

729
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,299
life changing and and for people who

730
00:34:59,180 --> 00:34:56,879
look at me as the shadow people hat me

731
00:35:00,859 --> 00:34:59,190
on paranormal person and I'm like I

732
00:35:02,359 --> 00:35:00,869
would not be able to do any of this had

733
00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:02,369
I not had the Jesus encounter

734
00:35:07,479 --> 00:35:04,980
experiences and I rely upon those

735
00:35:10,130 --> 00:35:07,489
experiences because one of the things

736
00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:10,140
that Jesus had said to me and it's not

737
00:35:13,849 --> 00:35:11,940
like he had a whole ton of words for me

738
00:35:15,499 --> 00:35:13,859
either it wasn't like I don't know how

739
00:35:17,479 --> 00:35:15,509
some people have had encounters with him

740
00:35:25,609 --> 00:35:17,489
and have like chapters to write up his

741
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:25,619
quotes oh really moving and he told me

742
00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:27,690
not to worry what others thought that

743
00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:29,430
know that he would be there to give me

744
00:35:34,609 --> 00:35:32,430
the word so every time I go to do a show

745
00:35:36,650 --> 00:35:34,619
every time I go to do anything in

746
00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:36,660
regards to these topics cuz I was

747
00:35:40,759 --> 00:35:38,430
painfully shy would you believe it that

748
00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:40,769
I gave up grades in college and would

749
00:35:46,099 --> 00:35:43,380
not do presentations so every time I

750
00:35:48,499 --> 00:35:46,109
would go up and do something I'm like

751
00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:48,509
you know Jesus you promised me you'd

752
00:35:52,339 --> 00:35:49,980
give me the words and now I'm holding

753
00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:52,349
you to it because you know every time

754
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:55,859
it's not there's no other reason that I

755
00:36:01,370 --> 00:35:57,839
do what I do because it has to do only

756
00:36:03,259 --> 00:36:01,380
for the the purpose said yeah he asked

757
00:36:05,450 --> 00:36:03,269
me to he asked me to finish writing my

758
00:36:08,349 --> 00:36:05,460
book the secret word a war and not to

759
00:36:11,059 --> 00:36:08,359
worry what others told spoke of it so I

760
00:36:13,309 --> 00:36:11,069
finished it and you know gotta follow

761
00:36:15,470 --> 00:36:13,319
your heart and gut on these things and

762
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:15,480
and also if Jesus asked you to do a

763
00:36:23,479 --> 00:36:19,049
favor not to be shy about it well yeah I

764
00:36:26,349 --> 00:36:23,489
guess so I guess so but I I don't know I

765
00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:26,359
I guess I feel done very thankful that I

766
00:36:31,489 --> 00:36:29,190
because I mentioned in other shows we do

767
00:36:33,739 --> 00:36:31,499
we've done before on our regular

768
00:36:35,690 --> 00:36:33,749
Kevin Cooke show about how I've had

769
00:36:37,339 --> 00:36:35,700
these experiences and the Catholic

770
00:36:39,769 --> 00:36:37,349
Church and I tell my priest about

771
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:39,779
I said what's up with this and basically

772
00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:41,970
the thrust of it is it's very frequent

773
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:44,700
that people have them it's not like you

774
00:36:51,009 --> 00:36:46,890
know a blue moon thing it has it's a

775
00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:51,019
regularized basis and it makes it

776
00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:53,220
certainly more comfortable I mean your

777
00:36:57,529 --> 00:36:56,190
your faith is reassured all the time and

778
00:37:00,200 --> 00:36:57,539
like I said that the about the

779
00:37:02,029 --> 00:37:00,210
Eucharistic miracle thing you go there

780
00:37:03,739 --> 00:37:02,039
and visit these places where they've got

781
00:37:06,140 --> 00:37:03,749
them stored and stare at it and read the

782
00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:06,150
medical reports and all that it just

783
00:37:12,229 --> 00:37:07,950
makes it a little easier going I guess

784
00:37:18,729 --> 00:37:12,239
but yeah so so you're gonna put this

785
00:37:21,170 --> 00:37:18,739
book out this next one out aiming for

786
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,180
maybe in about three weeks or so I'm

787
00:37:26,690 --> 00:37:23,839
trying to get some things lined up and I

788
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:26,700
got distracted with someone who wanted

789
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,249
to help put the book out and then had

790
00:37:34,969 --> 00:37:31,920
some issues going on and help promote

791
00:37:37,219 --> 00:37:34,979
the book I should say and yeah so it

792
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:37,229
just got delayed with that

793
00:37:42,739 --> 00:37:39,890
dilly-dallying and I'm just like look I

794
00:37:45,049 --> 00:37:42,749
people need this now and you know it's

795
00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:45,059
just like what people tell me oh gosh I

796
00:37:50,509 --> 00:37:47,579
hope that you know the world ends soon

797
00:37:53,089 --> 00:37:50,519
and you know things are so bad I'm like

798
00:37:55,789 --> 00:37:53,099
you know what I like think about it if

799
00:37:58,519 --> 00:37:55,799
the world ended soon look at how many

800
00:38:01,099 --> 00:37:58,529
people we would lose because there are

801
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:01,109
so many lost souls out there who've not

802
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:04,529
only lost their faith well so it's like

803
00:38:08,839 --> 00:38:06,690
it's a matter of you know getting these

804
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:08,849
people to wake up and look to the

805
00:38:12,319 --> 00:38:10,890
brighter side in the lighter side and to

806
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,329
God for crying out loud

807
00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:15,359
and not being shy about saying guess

808
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:17,940
what I believe in God guess what I'm

809
00:38:24,739 --> 00:38:21,359
Christian you know it's like this big

810
00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:24,749
taboo now to say that and I remember a

811
00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:27,390
time being in the paranormal and the UFO

812
00:38:31,549 --> 00:38:28,920
stuff and putting out the books that I

813
00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:31,559
did and and so many people writing me

814
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:34,140
saying like they didn't think they were

815
00:38:40,009 --> 00:38:37,529
allowed to believe UFOs existed and to

816
00:38:46,339 --> 00:38:40,019
keep their faith and to I'm like what

817
00:38:49,249 --> 00:38:46,349
like like it was somehow well there's uh

818
00:38:49,870 --> 00:38:49,259
it's okay it's okay it's just like a pet

819
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:49,880
your head

820
00:38:56,650 --> 00:38:51,680
your stomach at the same time it's okay

821
00:38:59,530 --> 00:38:56,660
if you could there is a certain tendency

822
00:39:03,090 --> 00:38:59,540
and some evangelical communities to view

823
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:03,100
UFOs as being a demonic of demonic aura

824
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:05,090
jh4 I've heard that before

825
00:39:11,170 --> 00:39:09,530
I think it goes according to what you

826
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:11,180
think and how you treat it

827
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:13,010
it's not about bowing down and get on

828
00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:14,960
your hands and knees to worship aliens

829
00:39:18,910 --> 00:39:17,150
that's acknowledging there may be life

830
00:39:20,350 --> 00:39:18,920
out there even the Vatican is

831
00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:20,360
acknowledged it may be brothers and

832
00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:23,750
sisters Oh governed by the same God and

833
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:27,070
it's like it's okay everybody you know

834
00:39:31,690 --> 00:39:29,810
it's it's like acknowledging there may

835
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:31,700
be breeds of dogs out there you don't

836
00:39:38,020 --> 00:39:36,560
know well even in the Bible Jesus said

837
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:38,030
that in my father's house are many

838
00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:39,920
mansions and I go to prepare a place for

839
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:42,950
you but he alluded to already different

840
00:39:47,170 --> 00:39:44,690
aspects or dimensions or whatever you

841
00:39:48,670 --> 00:39:47,180
want to call it already existing and I

842
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:48,680
go to prepare a place for you and

843
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:51,890
talking about human time so so there is

844
00:39:58,660 --> 00:39:55,280
diversities what I'm saying yes and even

845
00:40:01,660 --> 00:39:58,670
in the Bible there was a group that was

846
00:40:03,850 --> 00:40:01,670
referred to as Watchers and they weren't

847
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:03,860
angels per se and they weren't demons

848
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:06,290
but they were Watchers and and somehow

849
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:10,250
that there was a biblical warnings about

850
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:11,690
not messing with them or something like

851
00:40:16,530 --> 00:40:13,910
that but they weren't characterized as

852
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:16,540
demons per se just washers or some

853
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:18,160
bleed-over

854
00:40:23,170 --> 00:40:21,290
entities or whatever so I mean that this

855
00:40:26,890 --> 00:40:23,180
has been alluded to in the Bible before

856
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:26,900
ya know what gets jumbled in people's

857
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:29,690
perception sometimes in regards to the

858
00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:32,450
paranormal and UFOs and whatnot and I

859
00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:36,350
think because people sometimes wonder

860
00:40:40,540 --> 00:40:38,030
why something would look their way

861
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:40,550
paranormal or otherwise that well they

862
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,040
may have darker ties and so they were

863
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:45,680
all very possibly it could but I'm just

864
00:40:53,230 --> 00:40:51,410
saying that like well I have to admit

865
00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:53,240
that even I wonder about the ghostly

866
00:40:59,560 --> 00:40:56,630
thing but the Bible spoke of ghosts even

867
00:41:02,260 --> 00:40:59,570
Jesus spoke of ghosts now where they fit

868
00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:02,270
in the hierarchy of things I don't know

869
00:41:08,070 --> 00:41:03,660
I mean

870
00:41:10,830 --> 00:41:08,080
mm cases where old grandpa comes back

871
00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:10,840
and then a dream tells his grandson

872
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:12,670
that's okay Louie I'm all right or

873
00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:15,760
whatever and I mean this is there's a

874
00:41:20,430 --> 00:41:17,800
fella that I know in business is a

875
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:20,440
pretty sharp old guy and his older

876
00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:21,970
brother died and he had a very vivid

877
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:24,820
dream that he this guy came visit him so

878
00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:26,530
I just want you know I'm all right like

879
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:31,750
that and this guy's like ghosts are

880
00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:33,130
those things that linger around and

881
00:41:49,530 --> 00:41:41,260
knock stuff over what kind of thing yeah

882
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:49,540
that's what it was a knocking on my face

883
00:41:53,610 --> 00:41:51,670
it's over or something yeah well no I

884
00:41:55,860 --> 00:41:53,620
appreciate that but there's been untold

885
00:41:58,740 --> 00:41:55,870
stories of that kind of I experienced

886
00:42:02,610 --> 00:41:58,750
one like it I guess I could mention now

887
00:42:05,310 --> 00:42:02,620
that one in church actually that was

888
00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:05,320
kind of like that uh remember the one I

889
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:07,360
spoke up about when I was in Mass and I

890
00:42:13,070 --> 00:42:09,130
started feeling a grieving in the pit of

891
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:16,170
sorry well what it was that's okay what

892
00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:18,010
it was was I wasn't this is about a

893
00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:20,320
little shy of a year ago close to a year

894
00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:23,470
ago I was uh going through mass in the

895
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:26,440
normal way and it was about halfway done

896
00:42:31,050 --> 00:42:28,390
and I started feeling a real grieving

897
00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:31,060
feeling in the pit of my stomach but for

898
00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:32,680
a guy that was like a second father to

899
00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:36,700
me and and this was strange because you

900
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:38,920
know I'm not overly emotional person and

901
00:42:44,490 --> 00:42:41,170
you know the guy had been dead for 25

902
00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:44,500
years it wasn't like you know you know

903
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:49,540
an immediate shocking thing and this was

904
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,450
like hydeia like like you just got a

905
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:54,400
phone call and your sister was in a car

906
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:55,930
wreck or something right I mean that

907
00:43:02,370 --> 00:42:58,930
kind of imminent powerful punch in the

908
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:02,380
stomach kind of feeling right and uh and

909
00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:03,910
I thought this is strange because it

910
00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:07,150
ain't like me and okay what happened is

911
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:09,220
I I'm just kind of scratched my head

912
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:11,770
about it and then I went out to the

913
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:15,010
parking lot which you know has probably

914
00:43:18,980 --> 00:43:16,980
thousand cars and it

915
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:18,990
and parked right next to me in Keller

916
00:43:24,830 --> 00:43:21,200
Texas was a car from Atlanta Georgia

917
00:43:26,690 --> 00:43:24,840
where the business was I mean in the

918
00:43:31,070 --> 00:43:26,700
chances those two things in an exact

919
00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:31,080
happening are about zero inhale at like

920
00:43:34,849 --> 00:43:33,240
one of the trillion or something and I

921
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,859
told the priest about he said Kevin if

922
00:43:39,740 --> 00:43:36,480
you think that was a coincidence you're

923
00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:39,750
pretty naive and what it was it was kind

924
00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:41,940
of like a little ghostly visitation kind

925
00:43:49,970 --> 00:43:48,060
of and in a reassuring way and some guy

926
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:49,980
cared about like a second father kind of

927
00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:53,490
guy and there was no way that anyone

928
00:43:57,410 --> 00:43:55,740
with any wit of intelligence about them

929
00:44:01,460 --> 00:43:57,420
would not see that that was a contrived

930
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:01,470
and positive thing and it was reassuring

931
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:03,510
I and I've experienced things like that

932
00:44:08,420 --> 00:44:05,850
similar things more religious oriented

933
00:44:10,730 --> 00:44:08,430
things but but I mean that I guess that

934
00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:10,740
was a good spiritual contact thing you

935
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:16,680
know yeah and all my stuff happens by

936
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:18,330
the way almost all of it in the Catholic

937
00:44:22,670 --> 00:44:20,090
Church I mean nothing there's no well

938
00:44:30,109 --> 00:44:22,680
you know go chasing down ghosts and bars

939
00:44:31,790 --> 00:44:30,119
or hotels or anything oh no I'm not

940
00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:31,800
saying they can't but I mean mine for

941
00:44:34,370 --> 00:44:33,000
some reason I guess this knucklehead

942
00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:34,380
couldn't handle if it wasn't in the

943
00:44:43,070 --> 00:44:37,380
church so cool just keep him confined to

944
00:44:45,020 --> 00:44:43,080
that but I don't know I don't know but

945
00:44:49,250 --> 00:44:45,030
the faith thing I understand the faith

946
00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:49,260
thing is an issue and it's just so hard

947
00:44:55,220 --> 00:44:53,400
and uh you know I have a battle all the

948
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:55,230
time like my business partner will be

949
00:45:00,140 --> 00:44:57,690
you know he and I Drive around doing

950
00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:00,150
sales calls and you know he knows I'm

951
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:01,950
big Christian and all that and he'd say

952
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:04,050
you know oh wise God allow this wise God

953
00:45:11,410 --> 00:45:05,850
allow that and I frankly a lot of times

954
00:45:30,830 --> 00:45:29,090
Wow the idea being tackled the topic of

955
00:45:31,099 --> 00:45:30,840
faith in the mare that I did because I

956
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:31,109
think

957
00:45:36,589 --> 00:45:32,640
people are way too hard in themselves

958
00:45:38,479 --> 00:45:36,599
and need to start taking it a little bit

959
00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:38,489
a little bit easier on themselves and

960
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:41,369
you know keeping an open mind to this

961
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:43,049
crazy world that we live in that there

962
00:45:48,589 --> 00:45:46,319
are different levels of dimensions going

963
00:45:50,660 --> 00:45:48,599
on here I mean we believe in the holy

964
00:45:52,729 --> 00:45:50,670
spirit for crying out loud what is the

965
00:45:55,069 --> 00:45:52,739
whole spirit you can't poke your finger

966
00:45:56,989 --> 00:45:55,079
and its eye so what are we talking about

967
00:45:59,479 --> 00:45:56,999
you know God is everywhere well that's

968
00:46:01,339 --> 00:45:59,489
another kind of level of something - and

969
00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:01,349
it's like a Jesus ascended well where'd

970
00:46:05,390 --> 00:46:03,660
he go you know so there's a lot of

971
00:46:09,410 --> 00:46:05,400
different levels of understanding that I

972
00:46:11,210 --> 00:46:09,420
think that people need to you know take

973
00:46:16,279 --> 00:46:11,220
it all in there's there's a lot going on

974
00:46:18,829 --> 00:46:16,289
on this planet that we can't oh yes I

975
00:46:22,009 --> 00:46:18,839
know there is a way to understand and to

976
00:46:24,109 --> 00:46:22,019
be open and to observe it and to filter

977
00:46:26,809 --> 00:46:24,119
into your life without freaking out too

978
00:46:29,569 --> 00:46:26,819
much and acknowledging UFOs may be out

979
00:46:33,019 --> 00:46:29,579
there and ghosts and spirits and angels

980
00:46:34,759 --> 00:46:33,029
God all that demons you know and it's

981
00:46:36,769 --> 00:46:34,769
okay it's okay if it's a little

982
00:46:39,380 --> 00:46:36,779
confusing at first but I think as you

983
00:46:42,170 --> 00:46:39,390
take baby steps understand one element

984
00:46:45,739 --> 00:46:42,180
move to the next element see how the two

985
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:45,749
interrelate and work together it just

986
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:47,160
pulls together and it starts to make

987
00:46:51,319 --> 00:46:47,910
more sense

988
00:46:53,539 --> 00:46:51,329
I affirm myself I don't feel clouded in

989
00:46:55,999 --> 00:46:53,549
my thoughts and what it is that I've

990
00:46:58,970 --> 00:46:56,009
experienced it I don't feel confusing I

991
00:47:00,650 --> 00:46:58,980
think things happen in the order that

992
00:47:07,759 --> 00:47:00,660
they did I don't know if you want to go

993
00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:07,769
into my stuff yet before thing but but I

994
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:11,369
grew up in a haunted house and I saw I

995
00:47:16,819 --> 00:47:13,440
knew other reality is existed and

996
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,829
something that was very scary was

997
00:47:20,569 --> 00:47:18,720
happening my family and I we were

998
00:47:23,539 --> 00:47:20,579
experiencing something that we knew who

999
00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:23,549
wasn't typical and you know we didn't

1000
00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:25,319
speak of it to our school friends and

1001
00:47:29,390 --> 00:47:27,420
and everything and we're very relieved

1002
00:47:31,579 --> 00:47:29,400
and happy when we moved to a brand new

1003
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:31,589
house at my parents built so they

1004
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:33,089
wouldn't have to deal with a haunting

1005
00:47:40,579 --> 00:47:37,920
any longer and from then on I lived out

1006
00:47:42,049 --> 00:47:40,589
in the what was country enough for me

1007
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:42,059
was on the outskirts in Milwaukee

1008
00:47:45,570 --> 00:47:44,290
Wisconsin and

1009
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,580
didn't have many street lights or

1010
00:47:49,950 --> 00:47:47,680
anything and there was a couple farms

1011
00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:49,960
around the area and neighbors had horses

1012
00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:51,790
that would come up every once awhile you

1013
00:47:57,420 --> 00:47:54,220
know it's like it was a little little

1014
00:47:59,760 --> 00:47:57,430
country and I would walk it to where I

1015
00:48:03,810 --> 00:47:59,770
needed to go and I would see strange

1016
00:48:06,540 --> 00:48:03,820
lights in the sky and it yeah it's like

1017
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:06,550
they would do 90-degree angle turns and

1018
00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:08,290
kind of get too bright come a little

1019
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:10,780
lower go back up and I'm like you know

1020
00:48:17,580 --> 00:48:13,270
I'm seeing something that's really out

1021
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:17,590
of the ordinary and then as I know how

1022
00:48:22,110 --> 00:48:19,690
old I was I think it was about 12 13 I

1023
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,120
started having out-of-body experiences

1024
00:48:28,260 --> 00:48:24,640
and oh really how those do oh my

1025
00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:28,270
goodness it one that really floored me

1026
00:48:35,130 --> 00:48:31,750
because I just this is this is really

1027
00:48:37,730 --> 00:48:35,140
wild so the first one that I recall and

1028
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:37,740
I shared a room with my younger sister

1029
00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:40,720
so I had to be about 12 or something and

1030
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:43,540
I woke up because I felt something cold

1031
00:48:49,950 --> 00:48:47,290
on my cheek and rough and I'm like gosh

1032
00:48:52,890 --> 00:48:49,960
what is that and I go to to you know

1033
00:49:01,410 --> 00:48:52,900
pull my head up to look and it was the

1034
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:01,420
ceiling oh okay see my body and boom I

1035
00:49:08,090 --> 00:49:04,110
went back into it with us Mac like Oh

1036
00:49:11,550 --> 00:49:08,100
what on earth and I don't know how much

1037
00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:11,560
later I had another out-of-body

1038
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:15,430
experience and I remember going around

1039
00:49:21,780 --> 00:49:18,430
the neighborhood and and the the place

1040
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:21,790
where were a nearby where I lived it was

1041
00:49:26,550 --> 00:49:24,850
a model home area so they're brand new

1042
00:49:28,650 --> 00:49:26,560
empty houses people would come and look

1043
00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:28,660
at them and decide if they want to build

1044
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:31,900
that house somewhere so it was

1045
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:33,310
interesting me and my sister go and

1046
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:36,880
explore them it was fun but so so the

1047
00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:38,890
area was it was really you know starting

1048
00:49:44,430 --> 00:49:40,840
to build up a little bit here and there

1049
00:49:47,010 --> 00:49:44,440
like and I was I remember going low by

1050
00:49:50,190 --> 00:49:47,020
the trees and feeling the cool leaves

1051
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:50,200
and stuff and and this one time I I went

1052
00:49:56,010 --> 00:49:52,330
a little bit further out and I saw these

1053
00:49:56,580 --> 00:49:56,020
two towers being built and I'm like well

1054
00:49:58,109 --> 00:49:56,590
that's weird

1055
00:50:00,779 --> 00:49:58,119
I don't know of those

1056
00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:00,789
be there you know what is that and you

1057
00:50:05,370 --> 00:50:03,670
know I got confirmation I think it was

1058
00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:05,380
the following week when my parents drove

1059
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:07,180
past there sure enough two towers were

1060
00:50:11,130 --> 00:50:09,490
being built it I was like that really

1061
00:50:12,839 --> 00:50:11,140
happened that you know that's when it

1062
00:50:15,539 --> 00:50:12,849
really hit me sure sure

1063
00:50:18,269 --> 00:50:15,549
but what really really hit me this is a

1064
00:50:23,009 --> 00:50:18,279
crazy one I don't this this is just

1065
00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:23,019
beyond so my sister and I and neighbor

1066
00:50:29,069 --> 00:50:25,740
kids are playing in our backyard and we

1067
00:50:31,049 --> 00:50:29,079
had this linoleum sighting or aluminum

1068
00:50:34,380 --> 00:50:31,059
siding I'm sorry on the side of the

1069
00:50:37,230 --> 00:50:34,390
house and and this we're walking by and

1070
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:37,240
talking to me my sister and and I look

1071
00:50:44,130 --> 00:50:39,880
up and on the side like right outside of

1072
00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:44,140
our bedroom window what was and it was

1073
00:50:48,739 --> 00:50:46,150
kind of a matte finish to this aluminum

1074
00:50:53,759 --> 00:50:48,749
siding but I write on the outside were

1075
00:50:57,470 --> 00:50:53,769
sweaty feet footprint Oh footprints

1076
00:51:01,440 --> 00:50:57,480
going straight up the side of the house

1077
00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:01,450
it all the way to the roof no it was a

1078
00:51:08,789 --> 00:51:05,950
ranch-style house so it's one story and

1079
00:51:10,859 --> 00:51:08,799
I'm like what you know it's the house

1080
00:51:16,259 --> 00:51:10,869
that the son had to hit it just right

1081
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:16,269
and it just glistened and I'm like whose

1082
00:51:21,329 --> 00:51:18,940
footprints and I'm like I said oh my

1083
00:51:24,029 --> 00:51:21,339
gosh I had that out-of-body dream you

1084
00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:24,039
know and and I took my shoe off and I

1085
00:51:36,059 --> 00:51:33,190
put my foot but I'm like oh my dad and

1086
00:51:39,509 --> 00:51:36,069
we're like you know dad look at this and

1087
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:39,519
he comes out and he's like you girls are

1088
00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:42,400
playing a joke I mean I sure feel like

1089
00:51:50,339 --> 00:51:45,460
dad how on earth could we do that

1090
00:51:52,799 --> 00:51:50,349
get our I mean yeah I mean how did you

1091
00:51:54,930 --> 00:51:52,809
pull that prank oh hell I remember being

1092
00:51:58,620 --> 00:51:54,940
absolutely stunned and looking and

1093
00:52:03,180 --> 00:51:58,630
knowing like oh my gosh I did this how

1094
00:52:06,839 --> 00:52:03,190
you know I just I just didn't know how

1095
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:06,849
to fit it in and figure it out it was

1096
00:52:11,269 --> 00:52:10,480
just so bizarre but um yeah so that's

1097
00:52:13,609 --> 00:52:11,279
sort of my life

1098
00:52:15,409 --> 00:52:13,619
to the paranormal and then you know I'm

1099
00:52:18,169 --> 00:52:15,419
like what what is this everywhere I move

1100
00:52:20,409 --> 00:52:18,179
every place I go paranormal things would

1101
00:52:24,739 --> 00:52:20,419
be happening or I would be having these

1102
00:52:26,779 --> 00:52:24,749
premonition like dreams and it wasn't

1103
00:52:29,779 --> 00:52:26,789
something I associated with being a

1104
00:52:33,169 --> 00:52:29,789
wonderful fun thing I was terrorized as

1105
00:52:34,969 --> 00:52:33,179
a kid with the haunting and the UFO

1106
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:34,979
lights what scared me walking alone late

1107
00:52:40,009 --> 00:52:37,169
at night for miles in the dark you know

1108
00:52:44,449 --> 00:52:40,019
I'm like oh no you know what are those

1109
00:52:47,989 --> 00:52:44,459
lights up around for and wasn't

1110
00:52:51,409 --> 00:52:47,999
something I enjoyed and then I moved

1111
00:52:52,099 --> 00:52:51,419
into a dormitory and when I went off to

1112
00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:52,109
college

1113
00:52:58,959 --> 00:52:54,059
and wouldn't you know it paranormal

1114
00:53:02,769 --> 00:52:58,969
stuff I told you there too or I mean

1115
00:53:06,409 --> 00:53:02,779
just strange this just strangeness and I

1116
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:06,419
this this was this is probably the most

1117
00:53:12,769 --> 00:53:09,089
prominent ones it and they kind of lead

1118
00:53:15,019 --> 00:53:12,779
it they tie in together so my sweet mate

1119
00:53:17,269 --> 00:53:15,029
and I we're racing to the elevators

1120
00:53:20,539 --> 00:53:17,279
because we lived on the 23rd floor that

1121
00:53:22,399 --> 00:53:20,549
we have Big O dormitory there are huge

1122
00:53:24,529 --> 00:53:22,409
in there they had three towers and we're

1123
00:53:26,809 --> 00:53:24,539
in the tallest one and 23rd floor you

1124
00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:26,819
did not want to do those stairs and it

1125
00:53:30,529 --> 00:53:28,380
would take forever for the elevators to

1126
00:53:32,749 --> 00:53:30,539
come back so we're running and and we're

1127
00:53:35,449 --> 00:53:32,759
like old elevator we're running and the

1128
00:53:36,979 --> 00:53:35,459
doors popped up open just as they're

1129
00:53:40,699 --> 00:53:36,989
closing and we're like getting on to

1130
00:53:42,819 --> 00:53:40,709
think the person on the elevator and we

1131
00:53:46,969 --> 00:53:42,829
get on and there's nobody there

1132
00:53:49,279 --> 00:53:46,979
and we're like really quiet and we felt

1133
00:53:51,229 --> 00:53:49,289
like a presence there really quiet way

1134
00:53:53,419 --> 00:53:51,239
to say a word till we got to the 23rd

1135
00:53:55,370 --> 00:53:53,429
floor we got off and we're both like did

1136
00:53:58,370 --> 00:53:55,380
you see the girl that was I'm like yes I

1137
00:53:59,870 --> 00:53:58,380
saw the girl I'm like oh my gosh what a

1138
00:54:02,959 --> 00:53:59,880
ghostly figure of a girl

1139
00:54:05,149 --> 00:54:02,969
oh it was she was sullen she said blue

1140
00:54:08,390 --> 00:54:05,159
jeans and a and a leather bomber jacket

1141
00:54:10,849 --> 00:54:08,400
she was blond and and pretty and and

1142
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:10,859
we're just like oh my gosh I saw her too

1143
00:54:15,499 --> 00:54:13,890
and we're both like what was that yeah

1144
00:54:20,509 --> 00:54:15,509
so where did you see this figure was it

1145
00:54:22,299 --> 00:54:20,519
in the elevator itself or the door are

1146
00:54:25,179 --> 00:54:22,309
you Oh

1147
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:25,189
doors for us and we're just like what

1148
00:54:30,910 --> 00:54:27,170
the heck so now this gets even creepier

1149
00:54:34,569 --> 00:54:30,920
maybe two weeks later I am I had a

1150
00:54:37,839 --> 00:54:34,579
roommate so the suite is four rooms no

1151
00:54:39,099 --> 00:54:37,849
one three rooms and there are two single

1152
00:54:41,380 --> 00:54:39,109
rooms and there was a double room

1153
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:41,390
I hid a double room with my best friend

1154
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:47,410
and this one night I wake up to her

1155
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:50,569
asking me who are you talking to Heidi

1156
00:54:58,420 --> 00:54:55,130
not like I find myself in now my my bed

1157
00:55:00,400 --> 00:54:58,430
is like as at a bunkbed height okay and

1158
00:55:02,499 --> 00:55:00,410
I am standing there pointing out the

1159
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:02,509
window saying don't do it and I'm

1160
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:04,130
talking to a blonde girl in the bomber

1161
00:55:09,609 --> 00:55:08,089
jacket oh okay the same girl suitemates

1162
00:55:11,439 --> 00:55:09,619
hear all the commotion it's like 2:00

1163
00:55:12,819 --> 00:55:11,449
3:00 in the morning like what's going on

1164
00:55:15,099 --> 00:55:12,829
I'm like I was telling this girl not to

1165
00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:15,109
jump sure enough we found out later a

1166
00:55:22,269 --> 00:55:18,319
girl head jump from our floor so crazy

1167
00:55:23,769 --> 00:55:22,279
oh yeah so that was it but now okay now

1168
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:23,779
when she opened the elevator door for

1169
00:55:30,489 --> 00:55:27,170
you was she like a occupant of the car I

1170
00:55:32,259 --> 00:55:30,499
mean you know she opened up the elevator

1171
00:55:36,279 --> 00:55:32,269
to our floor of course you know we're

1172
00:55:38,229 --> 00:55:36,289
going to the 23rd floor but I mean you

1173
00:55:40,419 --> 00:55:38,239
know they never they knew that somebody

1174
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:40,429
had jumped from either the 23rd or 24th

1175
00:55:46,689 --> 00:55:45,049
floor and I guess what I'm saying is

1176
00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:46,699
when he walked into the elevator was

1177
00:55:50,699 --> 00:55:48,049
she's standing there than you she's

1178
00:55:53,650 --> 00:55:50,709
standing there like a regular person

1179
00:55:55,419 --> 00:55:53,660
like oh we got onto like say thank you

1180
00:55:57,429 --> 00:55:55,429
for opening the door and boom there's

1181
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:57,439
nobody there oh I got she's just

1182
00:56:01,779 --> 00:55:59,599
disappeared yeah yes you just totally

1183
00:56:03,789 --> 00:56:01,789
disappeared and you know we get off and

1184
00:56:05,890 --> 00:56:03,799
we're both confirming who we saw what we

1185
00:56:09,099 --> 00:56:05,900
saw and then for two weeks later or

1186
00:56:11,169 --> 00:56:09,109
whatever the time was to be waking up

1187
00:56:13,390 --> 00:56:11,179
talking to this girl I'm standing there

1188
00:56:14,949 --> 00:56:13,400
I came down off my bunk bed standing

1189
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:14,959
there pointing out the window window

1190
00:56:20,829 --> 00:56:17,119
telling her don't do it

1191
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:20,839
don't jump and then we confirmed later

1192
00:56:26,589 --> 00:56:23,920
that a girl had jumped from the window

1193
00:56:30,809 --> 00:56:26,599
and we didn't know which room and I'm

1194
00:56:35,579 --> 00:56:34,120
that is wild that is well you know

1195
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:35,589
that's similar I'm

1196
00:56:40,589 --> 00:56:38,559
I don't know that I guess it's similar

1197
00:56:41,759 --> 00:56:40,599
to the story about the one we mentioned

1198
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:41,769
earlier when we first started the show

1199
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:45,130
about the cemetery up your way where the

1200
00:56:50,910 --> 00:56:48,910
woman's asking for a hitchhike to the

1201
00:56:53,099 --> 00:56:50,920
cemetery or whatever it is and I think

1202
00:56:53,999 --> 00:56:53,109
you'd be cycling itself all over again I

1203
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:54,009
don't know

1204
00:56:59,219 --> 00:56:55,839
I mean religiously I can't even imagine

1205
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:59,229
what that's all about but I guess it

1206
00:57:03,569 --> 00:57:00,640
happens all the time because whatever

1207
00:57:05,930 --> 00:57:03,579
the local thing is in Dallas the Lady of

1208
00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:05,940
White Rock Lake I don't know I guess she

1209
00:57:09,839 --> 00:57:08,440
had a bad marital encounter and drowned

1210
00:57:14,609 --> 00:57:09,849
herself or something but it keeps

1211
00:57:16,529 --> 00:57:14,619
recycling all it's it's just such a it

1212
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:16,539
is now one thing about it I'm thankful

1213
00:57:21,479 --> 00:57:17,890
for the religious experiences I've had

1214
00:57:25,890 --> 00:57:21,489
but it is a weird world it's so much

1215
00:57:30,769 --> 00:57:25,900
weirder than my scientist parents

1216
00:57:36,420 --> 00:57:33,509
pictured as Berg described it as being

1217
00:57:40,890 --> 00:57:36,430
it's totally different I think it really

1218
00:57:42,660 --> 00:57:40,900
is but well that Heidi we're just about

1219
00:57:44,969 --> 00:57:42,670
at our second break I guess we could

1220
00:57:50,999 --> 00:57:44,979
take that for a minute and we'll be

1221
00:57:52,170 --> 00:57:51,009
right back all right three two one well

1222
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:52,180
it's good to be back with Heidi and

1223
00:57:58,799 --> 00:57:54,609
Heidi that that was pretty wild about

1224
00:58:03,989 --> 00:57:58,809
the girl and the elevator and that

1225
00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:03,999
really is something I guess it really

1226
00:58:13,140 --> 00:58:07,119
has I you know for the longest time mine

1227
00:58:14,729 --> 00:58:13,150
wasn't but but so what happened after

1228
00:58:24,479 --> 00:58:14,739
the cot during the college were there

1229
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:24,489
more experiences interesting aspect well

1230
00:58:32,940 --> 00:58:27,849
I was in college I saw it oh my gosh I'd

1231
00:58:36,959 --> 00:58:32,950
seen some wild UFOs including a massive

1232
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:36,969
one downtown Milwaukee and I was coming

1233
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:39,729
home from one of the clubs me my friend

1234
00:58:44,459 --> 00:58:41,650
was going to and I was never a drinker

1235
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:44,469
and she of course she's driving and so

1236
00:58:49,620 --> 00:58:48,400
she hadn't drink either and I saw this

1237
00:58:52,650 --> 00:58:49,630
bright light to the

1238
00:58:54,359 --> 00:58:52,660
to the right of us and and I'm like you

1239
00:58:56,849 --> 00:58:54,369
know for people from Wisconsin or in

1240
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:56,859
Milwaukee it was a old Fondulac exit

1241
00:59:01,039 --> 00:58:58,480
that they took down that was close to

1242
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:01,049
downtown exiting on to the east side of

1243
00:59:06,690 --> 00:59:04,930
Milwaukee and and I'm telling my my

1244
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:06,700
friend I'm like that's what it's that

1245
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:09,430
bright light and she looks over it past

1246
00:59:13,769 --> 00:59:11,920
me she's like uh I don't know but isn't

1247
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:13,779
that the mood and I'm like if it's the

1248
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:19,089
moon it's going to land on us and this

1249
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:22,450
thing comes right over the top of us and

1250
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:24,880
it was absolutely amazing I had never

1251
00:59:31,529 --> 00:59:28,000
seen or even heard of a UFO like this at

1252
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:31,539
the time now I've heard of some but the

1253
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:35,230
entire body of this thing glowed an

1254
00:59:41,279 --> 00:59:37,890
orangish reddish color and it almost

1255
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:41,289
seemed alive the the edges were kind of

1256
00:59:47,730 --> 00:59:43,930
diffused and it was kind of oblong and

1257
00:59:50,460 --> 00:59:47,740
just massive it took up the entire sky I

1258
00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:50,470
would say three football fields and

1259
00:59:56,430 --> 00:59:52,750
lengths just humongous I couldn't see

1260
00:59:59,039 --> 00:59:56,440
past it and my friend she's absolutely

1261
01:00:01,170 --> 00:59:59,049
freaking out and she's like I don't see

1262
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:01,180
this I don't see this I'm like oh and

1263
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:04,690
she's all over the road I'm like because

1264
01:00:13,370 --> 01:00:10,930
you're gonna get what is it and the

1265
01:00:16,109 --> 01:00:13,380
thing goes back up into the night sky

1266
01:00:18,930 --> 01:00:16,119
and my friends like you will never hear

1267
01:00:23,730 --> 01:00:18,940
me speak of this ever and this thing

1268
01:00:26,190 --> 01:00:23,740
came back down oh really it did and

1269
01:00:28,799 --> 01:00:26,200
she's like you know almost as if in

1270
01:00:31,470 --> 01:00:28,809
response to her and then in an instant

1271
01:00:34,829 --> 01:00:31,480
it took off towards Lake Michigan it was

1272
01:00:37,019 --> 01:00:34,839
just gone and I'm like oh there is no

1273
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:37,029
denying of this thing this thing was

1274
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:41,049
huge and just don't you know how do you

1275
01:00:48,029 --> 01:00:44,650
categorize that so things had gotten to

1276
01:00:51,299 --> 01:00:48,039
be where I'd seen odd UFOs and and

1277
01:00:53,609 --> 01:00:51,309
things like that and I'd also

1278
01:00:56,460 --> 01:00:53,619
experienced something and this goes into

1279
01:01:02,009 --> 01:00:56,470
the topic of shadow people um I was

1280
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:02,019
living in Iowa for a brief amount of

1281
01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:03,040
time

1282
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:06,550
and between my college years and I was

1283
01:01:11,070 --> 01:01:07,930
trying to learn about the newspaper

1284
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:11,080
business and I was staying at my

1285
01:01:15,870 --> 01:01:12,310
friend's house down there and her

1286
01:01:19,230 --> 01:01:15,880
family's home and I stayed in they have

1287
01:01:21,090 --> 01:01:19,240
like this attic bedroom which it just

1288
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:21,100
spells out a nightmare to begin with but

1289
01:01:31,470 --> 01:01:28,810
so we needed to go to her uncle's house

1290
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:31,480
and so we're both walking along and we

1291
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:33,490
walked through this this park that was

1292
01:01:39,210 --> 01:01:36,610
behind a school and I saw something in

1293
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:39,220
my peripheral vision to my right name I

1294
01:01:44,610 --> 01:01:41,850
thought I saw something shadowy move and

1295
01:01:46,590 --> 01:01:44,620
move from a bush to a tree and I'm like

1296
01:01:49,050 --> 01:01:46,600
what the heck of my friend she always

1297
01:01:50,850 --> 01:01:49,060
kind of walked faster than me and I like

1298
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:50,860
what did I just see you know what I keep

1299
01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:53,310
walking and I see this thing again and

1300
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:56,590
again and again the entire time that

1301
01:02:01,740 --> 01:01:59,200
we're walking and it was just a shadowy

1302
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:01,750
mass hopping from a tree to a bush and

1303
01:02:05,820 --> 01:02:03,400
just ducking behind things and I got a

1304
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:05,830
good luck thing kind of like shadowing

1305
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:09,910
you you will hell yeah truly as we're

1306
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:13,570
walking along I am you know getting more

1307
01:02:16,530 --> 01:02:14,770
and more freaked out this is broad

1308
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:16,540
daylight and we get to her uncle's house

1309
01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:18,760
and then we turn and we had to bring

1310
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:20,260
something to him we turn around to come

1311
01:02:25,170 --> 01:02:22,690
back to her home all these for this

1312
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:25,180
thing to follow us all the way back now

1313
01:02:30,090 --> 01:02:27,280
by the time we reached her home I was

1314
01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:30,100
just beside myself I'm like look I just

1315
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:31,780
saved hundreds of dollars by switching

1316
01:02:36,930 --> 01:02:34,690
to Geico I'm so happy I feel like I can

1317
01:02:38,340 --> 01:02:36,940
fly disclaimer you will not be able to

1318
01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:38,350
fly by switching to Geico this is

1319
01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:39,640
against the laws of physics and nature

1320
01:02:42,150 --> 01:02:40,990
if you find yourself lying please seek

1321
01:02:43,590 --> 01:02:42,160
professional and/or medical help

1322
01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:43,600
immediately in the unlikely event you

1323
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:44,980
find yourself lying you might be a

1324
01:02:48,570 --> 01:02:46,930
superhero or a pigeon or a superhero

1325
01:02:49,980 --> 01:02:48,580
named Paige woman who was bitten by a

1326
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:49,990
radioactive pigeon if you are indeed

1327
01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:51,850
[\h__\h] woman keiko retains all licensing

1328
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:52,960
publishing rights in the event pits

1329
01:02:56,580 --> 01:02:54,490
woman the movie becomes a top grossing

1330
01:03:07,410 --> 01:02:56,590
Hollywood blockbuster Geico 15 minutes

1331
01:03:10,740 --> 01:03:07,420
could save you 15% or more I don't know

1332
01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:10,750
this thing is kind of looks like a Hulk

1333
01:03:15,810 --> 01:03:13,630
II bulky man with his head directly

1334
01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:15,820
connected to his shoulders

1335
01:03:22,830 --> 01:03:19,390
and with no discernible legs and in

1336
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:22,840
looking at us this thing I mean I'm

1337
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:24,480
thinking oh my gosh my friend is gonna

1338
01:03:30,330 --> 01:03:26,710
laugh her head off what she sees my

1339
01:03:31,710 --> 01:03:30,340
drawing and I hand it to her and you

1340
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:31,720
know prepare for the worst for her

1341
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:33,910
laughter or she look barely looks at it

1342
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:37,930
she goes oh that thing oh just clear as

1343
01:03:46,830 --> 01:03:45,670
crystal to her I was a kid let go hey

1344
01:03:49,740 --> 01:03:46,840
dad look

1345
01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:49,750
Heidi saw him too dad comes over well

1346
01:03:52,590 --> 01:03:51,880
let me have a look and it goes oh is he

1347
01:03:58,170 --> 01:03:52,600
back

1348
01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:58,180
I'm like what's going on here by this

1349
01:04:02,940 --> 01:03:59,920
thing and they're very not just a lot

1350
01:04:05,630 --> 01:04:02,950
like and they go on to talk about it

1351
01:04:08,550 --> 01:04:05,640
well yeah they go on to talk about how

1352
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:08,560
this thing she would scream the middle

1353
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:10,330
of the night heard running and he would

1354
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:13,210
see it as well and just grab her and

1355
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:15,370
bring her out of the room and I was like

1356
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:18,490
this is this is just crazy so soon after

1357
01:04:22,650 --> 01:04:20,250
that I had to get something from my

1358
01:04:25,710 --> 01:04:22,660
attic bedroom and when you go up the

1359
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:25,720
stairs this is big black empty Center

1360
01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:28,810
room and I go and I walk through that

1361
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:30,760
big black Center room and it still broad

1362
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:32,110
daylight out there was no windows in

1363
01:04:37,290 --> 01:04:34,930
that that Center room but in my room

1364
01:04:39,030 --> 01:04:37,300
there are low windows that had a lot of

1365
01:04:41,130 --> 01:04:39,040
sunshine still coming in so it lit up

1366
01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:41,140
well enough and I go in there grab what

1367
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:43,870
I needed off my bed I turn around the

1368
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:48,730
leave and that darn thing was standing

1369
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:51,730
there blocking my exit out of the room

1370
01:05:01,980 --> 01:04:57,730
and probably ten feet tall Kevin just go

1371
01:05:05,370 --> 01:05:01,990
huge huge and I'm looking at this thing

1372
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:05,380
and I mean you talk about every element

1373
01:05:12,740 --> 01:05:08,050
of the nightmare coming to life and you

1374
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:12,750
being alone witnessing this and I'm like

1375
01:05:18,930 --> 01:05:16,330
wow you know so many thoughts go through

1376
01:05:20,070 --> 01:05:18,940
your head and it's like I should run no

1377
01:05:22,110 --> 01:05:20,080
I should swing at it

1378
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:22,120
nope and I just knew not to do any of

1379
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:24,310
those things and to take a deep breath

1380
01:05:29,020 --> 01:05:27,550
and start saying it a prayer rolling

1381
01:05:31,570 --> 01:05:29,030
over and over my head

1382
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:31,580
and I knew if I stood there much longer

1383
01:05:36,490 --> 01:05:33,170
and I felt like this thing what did it

1384
01:05:38,740 --> 01:05:36,500
kill me I felt it was wrongful emanating

1385
01:05:41,890 --> 01:05:38,750
from it us from oh man it was just

1386
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:41,900
jutting off from it like it just wanted

1387
01:05:47,470 --> 01:05:44,210
to reach out and rip my heart out and I

1388
01:05:50,740 --> 01:05:47,480
think if I had doubted my ability to get

1389
01:05:52,390 --> 01:05:50,750
out of that room for too long that it

1390
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:52,400
would have succeeded because I thought I

1391
01:05:58,900 --> 01:05:56,210
was gonna pass out so uh I just I just

1392
01:06:04,060 --> 01:05:58,910
kind of started with the prayer and I

1393
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:04,070
knew walk very carefully towards the

1394
01:06:12,190 --> 01:06:07,760
door and walk through this thing and I

1395
01:06:14,590 --> 01:06:12,200
just didn't I don't even know how and

1396
01:06:17,740 --> 01:06:14,600
people like well they feel like I'm like

1397
01:06:20,980 --> 01:06:17,750
look I was just looking to move out of

1398
01:06:23,770 --> 01:06:20,990
that place I I wasn't trying to take in

1399
01:06:26,140 --> 01:06:23,780
its vibes any further and made it

1400
01:06:29,830 --> 01:06:26,150
through that got to the top of the

1401
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:29,840
stairs and by the time I reached the top

1402
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:31,910
of the stairs I was just uh uh just

1403
01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:34,490
collapsed down the stairs and I my

1404
01:06:41,620 --> 01:06:39,680
friend found me there this is crazy

1405
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:41,630
so that was my introduction to shadow

1406
01:06:47,350 --> 01:06:45,770
people and I thought that I was done

1407
01:06:49,300 --> 01:06:47,360
with having witnessed something like

1408
01:06:51,220 --> 01:06:49,310
that when I did the girl have never had

1409
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:51,230
any really super negative experiences

1410
01:06:54,370 --> 01:06:52,730
with it like you know trying to enact

1411
01:07:01,060 --> 01:06:54,380
slap around the room or any her father

1412
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:01,070
would choke her yeah oh yeah it was

1413
01:07:06,220 --> 01:07:04,850
quite abusive yeah and the father felt

1414
01:07:10,570 --> 01:07:06,230
like it was trying to challenge him and

1415
01:07:14,220 --> 01:07:10,580
yeah I'm pretty pretty brutal stuff but

1416
01:07:19,110 --> 01:07:14,230
well she had also interestingly enough

1417
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:19,120
survived rolling lightning I was like

1418
01:07:23,530 --> 01:07:21,410
yeah you know those rolling balls of

1419
01:07:26,650 --> 01:07:23,540
lightning you ever hear those no I don't

1420
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:26,660
know I never heard those down yeah just

1421
01:07:31,870 --> 01:07:29,090
like a rolling ball of it looks like

1422
01:07:34,420 --> 01:07:31,880
static electricity just shooting out and

1423
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:34,430
her mom saw it coming it rolled into her

1424
01:07:37,630 --> 01:07:36,110
house as she was sitting there play one

1425
01:07:39,700 --> 01:07:37,640
of those things occur I've never I've

1426
01:07:41,410 --> 01:07:39,710
never even read about that I don't know

1427
01:07:42,789 --> 01:07:41,420
it's what she called it rolling ball of

1428
01:07:45,699 --> 01:07:42,799
lightning and

1429
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:45,709
I guess the power of lightning can hit

1430
01:07:51,849 --> 01:07:48,650
something dry and kind of Furlan I don't

1431
01:07:53,819 --> 01:07:51,859
know but her mother told her dropped the

1432
01:07:57,459 --> 01:07:53,829
wire hangers she had in her hands and

1433
01:07:59,410 --> 01:07:57,469
and she just was a small kid if she just

1434
01:08:04,179 --> 01:07:59,420
dropped it and the Lightning just hit it

1435
01:08:07,059 --> 01:08:04,189
just boom hit the hanger so but you know

1436
01:08:08,499 --> 01:08:07,069
it's it's fascinating though when it

1437
01:08:12,039 --> 01:08:08,509
comes to the shadow people I thought

1438
01:08:14,499 --> 01:08:12,049
that I had finished with dealing with

1439
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:14,509
the the you know whatever it was that I

1440
01:08:17,470 --> 01:08:15,890
had witness I didn't know what to think

1441
01:08:20,919 --> 01:08:17,480
of it I didn't know what to call it I

1442
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:20,929
was just kind of in a and the notion of

1443
01:08:24,660 --> 01:08:22,880
you haven't survived this whatever it

1444
01:08:28,059 --> 01:08:24,670
was that attacked my friend for years

1445
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:28,069
but I started having nightmares and I

1446
01:08:32,410 --> 01:08:30,049
didn't associate it necessarily because

1447
01:08:35,140 --> 01:08:32,420
I meant you haunting and stuff before I

1448
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:35,150
guess I just associated with you know

1449
01:08:39,490 --> 01:08:37,489
having some more bad luck and I started

1450
01:08:42,819 --> 01:08:39,500
having nightmares of shadow spiders is

1451
01:08:47,049 --> 01:08:42,829
what I call them shadow spiders oh my

1452
01:08:49,569 --> 01:08:47,059
gosh just like waking up from a

1453
01:08:51,870 --> 01:08:49,579
nightmare of seeing giant spiders that

1454
01:08:55,329 --> 01:08:51,880
could take up literally the entire

1455
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:55,339
ceiling of my bedroom and then opening

1456
01:09:01,089 --> 01:08:58,690
my eyes and still seeing it there and

1457
01:09:04,450 --> 01:09:01,099
and then having the thing dropped from

1458
01:09:07,180 --> 01:09:04,460
the ceiling hit my bed shaking the bed

1459
01:09:13,559 --> 01:09:07,190
and with every step moving the blankets

1460
01:09:15,549 --> 01:09:13,569
just crazy absolutely crazy and so these

1461
01:09:17,859 --> 01:09:15,559
nightmares I would usually wake up

1462
01:09:22,839 --> 01:09:17,869
looking for a shoe or something to hit

1463
01:09:24,729 --> 01:09:22,849
it just craziness but again I didn't

1464
01:09:28,930 --> 01:09:24,739
associate it with shadow people or

1465
01:09:33,329 --> 01:09:28,940
anything like that I moved back to to

1466
01:09:38,349 --> 01:09:33,339
Milwaukee finishing up school yeah and

1467
01:09:42,519 --> 01:09:38,359
I'd had a crazy encounter that I again I

1468
01:09:44,079 --> 01:09:42,529
I had joined a paranormal a UFO

1469
01:09:46,559 --> 01:09:44,089
paranormal discussion group is more like

1470
01:09:50,140 --> 01:09:46,569
a UFO alien abduction group actually oh

1471
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,150
I see and that was a school or where or

1472
01:09:54,269 --> 01:09:52,880
near dwarfism it was in the middle rocky

1473
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:54,279
areas

1474
01:09:58,380 --> 01:09:55,930
Oh believe it or not a psychotherapist

1475
01:09:59,820 --> 01:09:58,390
had started the group because oddly

1476
01:10:02,280 --> 01:09:59,830
enough she was running at all these

1477
01:10:05,310 --> 01:10:02,290
alien abductees that you know didn't

1478
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:05,320
know why they had PTSD and she was

1479
01:10:09,660 --> 01:10:07,930
unraveling and finding it had alien eyes

1480
01:10:13,740 --> 01:10:09,670
looking back at him so she started this

1481
01:10:15,630 --> 01:10:13,750
group and I caught wind of it because I

1482
01:10:18,650 --> 01:10:15,640
had seen some you know UFOs and

1483
01:10:22,650 --> 01:10:18,660
everything but I joined this group and

1484
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:22,660
soon after I joined I had an unmarked

1485
01:10:29,010 --> 01:10:26,800
black helicopter over my home yeah I'm

1486
01:10:33,650 --> 01:10:29,020
like I have read about these things and

1487
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:33,660
knew that they were yeah that kid was

1488
01:10:40,140 --> 01:10:37,900
right with us is yeah yeah so it's it

1489
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:40,150
was just crazy to me to you know Mike oh

1490
01:10:43,230 --> 01:10:41,890
my gosh I joined this group and here I

1491
01:10:45,390 --> 01:10:43,240
got you know I just joined the group

1492
01:10:49,380 --> 01:10:45,400
sight seen UFOs everybody else were

1493
01:10:51,630 --> 01:10:49,390
alien abductees just crazy

1494
01:10:54,780 --> 01:10:51,640
no one was just in the category haven't

1495
01:10:55,910 --> 01:10:54,790
seen UFOs and I'm like okay great I

1496
01:11:01,080 --> 01:10:55,920
joined this group in the government's

1497
01:11:03,330 --> 01:11:01,090
checking me out and I assumed moved not

1498
01:11:05,220 --> 01:11:03,340
too far up the street from where I live

1499
01:11:09,690 --> 01:11:05,230
originally after I saw that black

1500
01:11:11,010 --> 01:11:09,700
helicopter and I I was living alone but

1501
01:11:13,170 --> 01:11:11,020
then the first-floor apartment

1502
01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:13,180
my dad always warned me you know hey

1503
01:11:18,620 --> 01:11:14,440
young girl should be living by

1504
01:11:25,230 --> 01:11:23,070
make sense where there were bars on the

1505
01:11:28,470 --> 01:11:25,240
windows so you know it was it was safe I

1506
01:11:29,220 --> 01:11:28,480
felt of course the bars were there for a

1507
01:11:35,490 --> 01:11:29,230
reason

1508
01:11:37,740 --> 01:11:35,500
I think college side of town it was

1509
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:37,750
nothing oh I definitely would Milwaukee

1510
01:11:42,510 --> 01:11:40,810
really yeah it's pretty right now it's

1511
01:11:44,730 --> 01:11:42,520
one of the most upscale sides of town

1512
01:11:47,370 --> 01:11:44,740
and it wasn't bad but I lived there so

1513
01:11:49,020 --> 01:11:47,380
it was just a safety feature because it

1514
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:49,030
was on the first floor it's just kind of

1515
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:51,370
too easy for anybody to slide on in

1516
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:55,120
there but so this one night I woke up

1517
01:12:00,740 --> 01:11:58,210
because I heard noise like really loud

1518
01:12:03,450 --> 01:12:00,750
noise in my place like somebody was

1519
01:12:06,510 --> 01:12:03,460
ruffling and rustling to my stuff and

1520
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:06,520
first thought was like oh my god my dad

1521
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:09,280
right somebody's broken in I'm like how

1522
01:12:14,810 --> 01:12:11,890
did yeah and you know thinking yeah they

1523
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:14,820
must have come in through the door and

1524
01:12:20,810 --> 01:12:18,130
my bedroom door is wide open I'm hearing

1525
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:20,820
a lot of ruckus going on and I'm like

1526
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:24,930
holy smokes second I put my feet down on

1527
01:12:30,420 --> 01:12:27,370
whoever is in here is going to see me

1528
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:30,430
and I have bars on my windows I can't

1529
01:12:38,190 --> 01:12:32,290
get out the window I don't have my phone

1530
01:12:39,150 --> 01:12:38,200
near me oh my gosh absolutely terrifying

1531
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:39,160
I don't know if I told you this story

1532
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:43,360
before all right right oh no oh this is

1533
01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:46,890
just probably one of the wackiest

1534
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:49,840
experiences I ever had so I go to put my

1535
01:12:54,750 --> 01:12:52,030
feet down on the ground and I'm like run

1536
01:12:57,780 --> 01:12:54,760
like heck to get out of there and I I

1537
01:12:59,820 --> 01:12:57,790
mean you're just a fight fight for your

1538
01:13:01,650 --> 01:12:59,830
life you know like so my gosh I gotta

1539
01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:01,660
just make it to the kitchen and get out

1540
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:05,710
the front door put my feet down and I go

1541
01:13:14,970 --> 01:13:08,890
to run to the living room when all of a

1542
01:13:17,490 --> 01:13:14,980
sudden I am met with two beings the size

1543
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:17,500
of four-year-olds with their backs to me

1544
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:22,800
and I'm like what the heck you know

1545
01:13:27,180 --> 01:13:24,610
four-year-olds are broken into my

1546
01:13:30,570 --> 01:13:27,190
apartment I'm like suddenly some of my

1547
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:30,580
fear left me I remember walking up to

1548
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:32,080
them and they're they're they're their

1549
01:13:36,590 --> 01:13:33,250
backs are to me and they're going

1550
01:13:39,570 --> 01:13:36,600
through a short bookshelf that I had and

1551
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:39,580
I'm like I go up between the two of them

1552
01:13:45,180 --> 01:13:41,890
and they both stop what they're doing

1553
01:13:48,570 --> 01:13:45,190
and they turn and look up right at me

1554
01:13:50,850 --> 01:13:48,580
and you know they're these things they

1555
01:13:53,220 --> 01:13:50,860
look just like the grey alien beings

1556
01:13:55,860 --> 01:13:53,230
that people write so often about and a

1557
01:13:58,970 --> 01:13:55,870
little dumpy cut aliens yeah well yeah

1558
01:14:02,430 --> 01:13:58,980
like grey with the big bulbous head

1559
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:02,440
black almond-shaped eyes two slits for

1560
01:14:06,570 --> 01:14:05,290
an astro and a slit for a mouth at they

1561
01:14:09,540 --> 01:14:06,580
always say like they don't show any

1562
01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:09,550
expression these things they open their

1563
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:13,030
mouths to form an o like oh crap she's

1564
01:14:19,290 --> 01:14:18,130
open and I'm like m'as weird because I

1565
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:19,300
thought I was about to die

1566
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:22,000
then all of a sudden there's two little

1567
01:14:26,459 --> 01:14:23,730
odd creatures I knew what they were

1568
01:14:28,109 --> 01:14:26,469
because I joined that group and I have

1569
01:14:30,569 --> 01:14:28,119
read books on the topic of alien

1570
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:30,579
abductions and I'm like I said who are

1571
01:14:36,330 --> 01:14:33,570
you what are you doing here and I told

1572
01:14:39,660 --> 01:14:36,340
ya I grabbed my stuff that was in their

1573
01:14:42,930 --> 01:14:39,670
hands I put it down and I'm like

1574
01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:42,940
essentially just like not knowing what

1575
01:14:47,220 --> 01:14:44,590
the heck and why the heck they're there

1576
01:14:49,799 --> 01:14:47,230
I hear some more noise behind me there's

1577
01:14:51,290 --> 01:14:49,809
two more of my walk-in closet hey I

1578
01:14:54,450 --> 01:14:51,300
really didn't tell you about this Kevin

1579
01:14:58,229 --> 01:14:54,460
no no never this is odd this whoa holy

1580
01:15:05,310 --> 01:14:58,239
mackerel no this is told territory new

1581
01:15:07,470 --> 01:15:05,320
territory well what's strange to me too

1582
01:15:10,319 --> 01:15:07,480
is that I'm thinking you're just a

1583
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:10,329
little girl and I'm thinking God you

1584
01:15:15,359 --> 01:15:12,250
know it I mean you know I'm older now

1585
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:15,369
but at my high flike say 3035 I

1586
01:15:21,149 --> 01:15:18,159
I was literally without being silly

1587
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:21,159
about it scared of no man I mean you

1588
01:15:25,709 --> 01:15:23,679
know I I chase off I mean I had battles

1589
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:25,719
with Mafia gunsels and everything else

1590
01:15:30,569 --> 01:15:28,480
yeah yeah yeah but I mean I was scared

1591
01:15:32,129 --> 01:15:30,579
of nothing like that but a little old

1592
01:15:35,970 --> 01:15:32,139
girl experiencing these things are

1593
01:15:39,870 --> 01:15:35,980
picking up oh my goodness I was

1594
01:15:41,879 --> 01:15:39,880
terrified I mean at the time it's like I

1595
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:41,889
was afraid of the dark to an extent

1596
01:15:45,450 --> 01:15:43,360
because I knew what was in the dark I

1597
01:15:46,979 --> 01:15:45,460
grew up in a haunted house I didn't

1598
01:15:49,799 --> 01:15:46,989
appreciate some of the things I had

1599
01:15:53,490 --> 01:15:49,809
experienced in you know to be met with

1600
01:15:55,890 --> 01:15:53,500
something solid like this I mean gray

1601
01:15:58,890 --> 01:15:55,900
alien beings I'm like you know again all

1602
01:16:00,780 --> 01:15:58,900
I could think of it was to tribute it to

1603
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:00,790
the UFO group I had joined I'm like I

1604
01:16:06,899 --> 01:16:03,610
get a black helicopter now I have little

1605
01:16:09,419 --> 01:16:06,909
graves of my apartment and I wasn't

1606
01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:09,429
paralyzed like people say and I don't

1607
01:16:11,310 --> 01:16:11,020
feel like got abducted or anything like

1608
01:16:14,580 --> 01:16:11,320
that

1609
01:16:17,010 --> 01:16:14,590
um but you know to get to the shadow

1610
01:16:20,850 --> 01:16:17,020
people part practically this is the next

1611
01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:20,860
day I saw those head and shoulder shaped

1612
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:24,190
shadow people in my apartment I'm like

1613
01:16:29,609 --> 01:16:27,610
oh my gosh those things are back you

1614
01:16:31,169 --> 01:16:29,619
know they were going right I mean

1615
01:16:32,939 --> 01:16:31,179
looking through your stuff I guess you

1616
01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:32,949
say the grey beings were

1617
01:16:39,209 --> 01:16:37,209
but the shadow beings like the next days

1618
01:16:40,949 --> 01:16:39,219
it's like what are the odds I just saw a

1619
01:16:45,390 --> 01:16:40,959
grey alien beings for the first time in

1620
01:16:48,299 --> 01:16:45,400
my life next day my place is a bombarded

1621
01:16:50,969 --> 01:16:48,309
with shadowy creatures and it was like

1622
01:16:53,399 --> 01:16:50,979
you know how when you see a bird diving

1623
01:16:55,529 --> 01:16:53,409
you know dive bombing or something and

1624
01:16:57,930 --> 01:16:55,539
they're so quick I was seeing something

1625
01:17:00,989 --> 01:16:57,940
the size of a bird's zipping past me all

1626
01:17:03,330 --> 01:17:00,999
the time and I'm like what is going on

1627
01:17:07,290 --> 01:17:03,340
here and this is interesting to Kevin

1628
01:17:09,870 --> 01:17:07,300
since you're a nature guy this is not

1629
01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:09,880
quite nature but whenever a fly would

1630
01:17:15,149 --> 01:17:12,550
come into my apartment they would stop

1631
01:17:17,850 --> 01:17:15,159
flying and they would walk I called them

1632
01:17:21,149 --> 01:17:17,860
crawlers because they wouldn't fly

1633
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:21,159
anymore well that's not very normal I

1634
01:17:25,609 --> 01:17:22,690
mean that's abnormal itself they're

1635
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:25,619
always flying around flitting around and

1636
01:17:39,540 --> 01:17:35,790
knew I had these black shadowy masses

1637
01:17:44,399 --> 01:17:39,550
and they felt very nosey very observant

1638
01:17:47,790 --> 01:17:44,409
and very negative just didn't know how

1639
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:47,800
to how to think on what was going on in

1640
01:17:51,839 --> 01:17:49,090
my life all of a sudden they're like

1641
01:17:54,689 --> 01:17:51,849
tonight I open up a can of worms by

1642
01:17:56,910 --> 01:17:54,699
going to this group you know well you

1643
01:17:59,339 --> 01:17:56,920
wouldn't think so but I guess well now

1644
01:18:03,540 --> 01:17:59,349
this would indicate a demonic content as

1645
01:18:07,379 --> 01:18:03,550
opposed to just some fly by elion well

1646
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:07,389
that's what I thought but then I started

1647
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:11,050
to really connect it to there had to be

1648
01:18:15,870 --> 01:18:13,090
a connection between the aliens and

1649
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:15,880
these shadow beings the timing was too

1650
01:18:22,469 --> 01:18:19,199
perfect and I actually had an experience

1651
01:18:24,689 --> 01:18:22,479
that was this is this is I don't talk

1652
01:18:27,509 --> 01:18:24,699
about this one so much but whenever

1653
01:18:30,330 --> 01:18:27,519
something weird would be coming near me

1654
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:30,340
I would wake right up I I just it was

1655
01:18:33,839 --> 01:18:32,170
weird it was almost like my heart would

1656
01:18:37,020 --> 01:18:33,849
start beating and then I would get an

1657
01:18:39,029 --> 01:18:37,030
adrenaline rush and I'd wake up to see

1658
01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:39,039
whatever was in my room it was almost

1659
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:42,369
like I had my own alarm system and this

1660
01:18:46,660 --> 01:18:45,280
one time I got that sudden adrenaline

1661
01:18:49,870 --> 01:18:46,670
rush and I'm like great

1662
01:18:54,130 --> 01:18:49,880
it's in here and uh Kevin this is so

1663
01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:54,140
gross there was a giant spider like

1664
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:56,510
thing dropping down from the ceiling

1665
01:19:02,770 --> 01:18:58,640
like as if on a string with its legs

1666
01:19:06,340 --> 01:19:02,780
spread out going towards my face I open

1667
01:19:11,260 --> 01:19:06,350
my eyes this thing closed its legs

1668
01:19:16,150 --> 01:19:11,270
it started to retract and it formed a

1669
01:19:18,910 --> 01:19:16,160
grey aliens face as it retracted and I

1670
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:18,920
slept was just I jumped up and I'm like

1671
01:19:28,540 --> 01:19:22,250
I see you I see you I see you I'm like

1672
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,550
oh you like I saw you you know I know

1673
01:19:34,540 --> 01:19:30,800
now that you guys there was some

1674
01:19:36,610 --> 01:19:34,550
connection but you know how do you how

1675
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:36,620
do you connect the dots it was just such

1676
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:38,890
a crazy experience I know that's a weird

1677
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:41,330
circumstances I mean I was excited to do

1678
01:19:47,710 --> 01:19:44,330
demonism as opposed to some fly by alien

1679
01:19:50,830 --> 01:19:47,720
type things now it's look at categorize

1680
01:19:53,290 --> 01:19:50,840
it as yeah Oh trust me I was just trying

1681
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:53,300
to get through school and you know so

1682
01:19:59,050 --> 01:19:55,610
that apartment I had so many things

1683
01:20:07,840 --> 01:19:59,060
going on in there it was so just it was

1684
01:20:12,190 --> 01:20:07,850
hard to concentrate oh yeah therapists

1685
01:20:13,570 --> 01:20:12,200
now and you know it's like for me it was

1686
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:13,580
like I was getting ready to become a

1687
01:20:19,090 --> 01:20:15,890
doctor I didn't feel like it would be

1688
01:20:21,250 --> 01:20:19,100
much more of a stretch to go further to

1689
01:20:23,230 --> 01:20:21,260
school if I wanted to I'm like what more

1690
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:23,240
can they cram in my freaking head I was

1691
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:28,400
so done but anyways I soon after that I

1692
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:30,110
moved across the hall in the same

1693
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:31,970
building I got a roommate I got a bigger

1694
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:36,110
apartment and I thought it would be cool

1695
01:20:42,910 --> 01:20:39,440
that I'd get this this new roommate who

1696
01:20:45,700 --> 01:20:42,920
I'm a cartoonist as well and I actually

1697
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:45,710
I welcome people to check out my comic

1698
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:48,290
called the Outlanders if you go to the

1699
01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:52,880
Outlanders comic calm essentially a

1700
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:55,760
Bigfoot gets alien neighbors with human

1701
01:20:59,160 --> 01:20:57,170
homesteaders in the opposite Hill so

1702
01:21:01,800 --> 01:20:59,170
it's it's kind of fun uh

1703
01:21:04,380 --> 01:21:01,810
but she was somebody who was also a

1704
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:04,390
cartoonist and I'm like oh really what

1705
01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:06,370
are the chances of that that's oh she

1706
01:21:10,830 --> 01:21:08,500
was she did won the presidential award

1707
01:21:13,709 --> 01:21:10,840
four times full tuition scholarships she

1708
01:21:18,260 --> 01:21:13,719
was phenomenal and I thought how neat

1709
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:18,270
and so we became roommates and she was

1710
01:21:24,810 --> 01:21:21,760
Pentecostal very religious very strict

1711
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:24,820
and I did warn her that I had some weird

1712
01:21:27,919 --> 01:21:27,040
stuff going on even though I moved to a

1713
01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:27,929
new apartment

1714
01:21:34,459 --> 01:21:31,030
it just bounced next door to me I mean

1715
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:34,469
all this weird stuff still was going on

1716
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:38,110
no I have God on my side your demons

1717
01:21:43,530 --> 01:21:40,410
won't bother me and I'm like huh okay

1718
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:43,540
well it turned out the things I was able

1719
01:21:49,050 --> 01:21:46,000
to see which were like transparent

1720
01:21:52,650 --> 01:21:49,060
looking like aliens sometimes where I

1721
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:52,660
could just see the edge of stuff she was

1722
01:22:01,560 --> 01:21:57,810
able to see them so clear I called her

1723
01:22:03,950 --> 01:22:01,570
yes oh my gosh the very first time she

1724
01:22:06,959 --> 01:22:03,960
was point she had her back to me it was

1725
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:06,969
sketching madly looking at the corner of

1726
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:09,520
the wall and night I could see this like

1727
01:22:15,689 --> 01:22:12,730
out outline of a but like it looks like

1728
01:22:18,780 --> 01:22:15,699
an alien something it was standing there

1729
01:22:21,630 --> 01:22:18,790
but I couldn't see any details she turns

1730
01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:21,640
around and and and I I have drew what I

1731
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:24,760
saw and I pulled out her drawing

1732
01:22:32,959 --> 01:22:27,210
holy smokes no so much detailed

1733
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:38,220
you could see better than I can so but

1734
01:22:43,890 --> 01:22:40,449
because she she just kept calling them

1735
01:22:46,620 --> 01:22:43,900
demons she's like I can't categorize it

1736
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:46,630
as anything else unless I see a UFO but

1737
01:22:51,780 --> 01:22:49,570
she was drawing aliens and then she

1738
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:51,790
started seeing the shadow beings around

1739
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:55,210
as well and she just it started a whole

1740
01:23:01,110 --> 01:22:59,920
new chapter for myself so what are you

1741
01:23:02,729 --> 01:23:01,120
saying in essence these are like

1742
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:02,739
interdimensional beings as opposed to

1743
01:23:06,959 --> 01:23:04,449
being straight-up demons it's up how

1744
01:23:08,850 --> 01:23:06,969
your wave categorizing I think they're

1745
01:23:10,380 --> 01:23:08,860
one in the same I think that these are

1746
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:10,390
these shadow beings are what was written

1747
01:23:12,729 --> 01:23:12,130
up in the Bible as being something that

1748
01:23:16,750 --> 01:23:12,739
could

1749
01:23:17,890 --> 01:23:16,760
shape I mean I shadow spider shadow cat

1750
01:23:22,959 --> 01:23:17,900
shadow people

1751
01:23:25,060 --> 01:23:22,969
shadows streaks clouds spiders they

1752
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:25,070
could change it to anything and their

1753
01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:27,170
presence in their feel is so negative

1754
01:23:32,799 --> 01:23:29,840
and you know over the years as I've

1755
01:23:34,870 --> 01:23:32,809
received so many emails thousands and

1756
01:23:36,549 --> 01:23:34,880
I'm not exaggerating thousands I was on

1757
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:36,559
some show that asked me how many

1758
01:23:41,529 --> 01:23:38,570
Sherrill people reports have you

1759
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:41,539
investigated I said thousands they added

1760
01:23:49,049 --> 01:23:44,090
and said dozens and dozens I'm like the

1761
01:23:53,770 --> 01:23:51,700
yeah they asked me the question and then

1762
01:23:57,729 --> 01:23:53,780
they put this hollis says dozens and

1763
01:24:00,700 --> 01:23:57,739
dozens then no I did not so yeah editing

1764
01:24:05,109 --> 01:24:00,710
Liberty going on there but yeah so it

1765
01:24:06,669 --> 01:24:05,119
just just madness but I you know the the

1766
01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:06,679
capacity of people have witnessed these

1767
01:24:12,729 --> 01:24:09,920
things are forever changing and a lot of

1768
01:24:14,799 --> 01:24:12,739
the people said you know when they felt

1769
01:24:16,450 --> 01:24:14,809
these things around they would leave

1770
01:24:18,129 --> 01:24:16,460
after they gave up like they were so

1771
01:24:19,870 --> 01:24:18,139
terrified they just gave up I felt they

1772
01:24:23,049 --> 01:24:19,880
were gonna die and the shadow people

1773
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:23,059
would leave after that like it was it

1774
01:24:27,729 --> 01:24:25,130
was an interesting thing they fed on

1775
01:24:29,589 --> 01:24:27,739
from the fear yeah I fed off the fears

1776
01:24:31,739 --> 01:24:29,599
oh I've heard of that I've heard of it

1777
01:24:36,549 --> 01:24:31,749
as I alluded to somewhere before yeah

1778
01:24:39,069 --> 01:24:36,559
Wow the craziest thing and this roommate

1779
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:39,079
of mine who I'll just call Samantha she

1780
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:41,210
is the one who experienced the half man

1781
01:24:46,750 --> 01:24:42,650
which is something we'll go into that

1782
01:24:48,970 --> 01:24:46,760
the last segment and I thought it was

1783
01:24:52,959 --> 01:24:48,980
another form that shadow people came in

1784
01:24:56,109 --> 01:24:52,969
but I was really wrong I placed a lot of

1785
01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:56,119
different images on my website the forms

1786
01:25:01,810 --> 01:24:58,159
of shadow people could take and I called

1787
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:01,820
him the hat man shadow well the vision

1788
01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,650
of well yeah he's not a shadow being yes

1789
01:25:12,330 --> 01:25:08,480
he could look somewhat shadowy at times

1790
01:25:16,450 --> 01:25:12,340
but he is quite solid and quite uh quite

1791
01:25:18,700 --> 01:25:16,460
very much in control and very consistent

1792
01:25:21,850 --> 01:25:18,710
and what he does and what he says he

1793
01:25:24,310 --> 01:25:21,860
speaks shadow people make growl they'll

1794
01:25:25,790 --> 01:25:24,320
pin you down choke you and whatnot try

1795
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:25,800
to scare the crap out of you but

1796
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:28,610
hatman takes it to a whole new level and

1797
01:25:34,370 --> 01:25:31,050
what he would he be were generally

1798
01:25:37,190 --> 01:25:34,380
D'Amato sir oh I believe he's in control

1799
01:25:42,290 --> 01:25:37,200
of the demons I believe he is the demon

1800
01:25:44,030 --> 01:25:42,300
of all demons unfortunately oh yeah and

1801
01:25:45,740 --> 01:25:44,040
when you introduce a lovely little

1802
01:25:47,590 --> 01:25:45,750
experienced snare in the Midwest I

1803
01:25:56,740 --> 01:25:47,600
thought stuff is supposed to be

1804
01:26:00,620 --> 01:25:56,750
wholesome up that way our last break and

1805
01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:00,630
we'll be right back all right Kevin

1806
01:26:05,930 --> 01:26:03,920
we're back in three two one

1807
01:26:08,270 --> 01:26:05,940
well it's great to be back with Heidi

1808
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:08,280
and uh boy I tell you what like I said

1809
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:10,560
earlier yeah

1810
01:26:15,110 --> 01:26:12,960
big macho guy this little girl's doing

1811
01:26:17,060 --> 01:26:15,120
stuff that would scare me I'm putting up

1812
01:26:19,070 --> 01:26:17,070
stuff that would scare me it's really

1813
01:26:21,290 --> 01:26:19,080
wild but Heidi I've got to take my hat

1814
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:21,300
off to you dealt with a lot of monsters

1815
01:26:26,750 --> 01:26:23,850
and made it through I guess you know

1816
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:26,760
what I didn't even tell you eight years

1817
01:26:32,830 --> 01:26:30,090
old is when I was first left to take on

1818
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:32,840
the haunting by my lovely siblings I

1819
01:26:39,650 --> 01:26:36,810
mean really uh you know I think that's

1820
01:26:40,910 --> 01:26:39,660
what its kind of prepared me for all

1821
01:26:43,610 --> 01:26:40,920
this stuff okay

1822
01:26:45,950 --> 01:26:43,620
this story really quick but I the

1823
01:26:49,660 --> 01:26:45,960
haunting in our house started the first

1824
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:49,670
Christmas after my mother's passing and

1825
01:26:54,140 --> 01:26:52,800
my my soon-to-be stepmother and my dad

1826
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:54,150
what's go it was literally it was

1827
01:26:58,970 --> 01:26:56,850
Christmas freaking morning and my my

1828
01:27:01,820 --> 01:26:58,980
soon-to-be stepmom and my dad went to

1829
01:27:03,230 --> 01:27:01,830
kill which others Merry Christmas and me

1830
01:27:05,060 --> 01:27:03,240
and my siblings had just finished

1831
01:27:08,180 --> 01:27:05,070
tearing through all of our gifts and

1832
01:27:11,660 --> 01:27:08,190
whatnot in and really digging it and and

1833
01:27:14,660 --> 01:27:11,670
my stepmother had just moved in an organ

1834
01:27:20,210 --> 01:27:14,670
and this thing started

1835
01:27:22,340 --> 01:27:20,220
playing no no it's pounding away ed and

1836
01:27:24,230 --> 01:27:22,350
me and my sisters we loved watching old

1837
01:27:27,170 --> 01:27:24,240
western movies and watching the

1838
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:27,180
automatic pianos playing and we go up to

1839
01:27:32,330 --> 01:27:30,330
a point that is so cool and I go to my

1840
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:32,340
future stepbrother we're like how does

1841
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:35,730
it it's just like in the movies and his

1842
01:27:39,290 --> 01:27:38,340
little freckled red head and he's pale

1843
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:39,300
as a ghost

1844
01:27:51,049 --> 01:27:48,480
it doesn't know we ran and locked

1845
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:51,059
ourselves in the bathroom and a long

1846
01:27:57,709 --> 01:27:54,960
story short my I had a older sister who

1847
01:27:59,780 --> 01:27:57,719
was the bullying type and she's like oh

1848
01:28:05,089 --> 01:27:59,790
the bathroom is too crowded somebody has

1849
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:05,099
to get out and she shoved me out I was

1850
01:28:08,899 --> 01:28:07,050
like I couldn't take it I could not take

1851
01:28:12,620 --> 01:28:08,909
this thing pounding away the way it was

1852
01:28:15,740 --> 01:28:12,630
in front of me so I got the keys to it

1853
01:28:17,629 --> 01:28:15,750
cuz I had a cover and went up and pulled

1854
01:28:19,370 --> 01:28:17,639
the cover over and I locked it I mean

1855
01:28:22,129 --> 01:28:19,380
those keys were pounding away right in

1856
01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:22,139
front of my face and I locked it really

1857
01:28:32,299 --> 01:28:29,040
oh yeah and oh when I did it stopped but

1858
01:28:34,490 --> 01:28:32,309
it didn't end there but it was just just

1859
01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:34,500
a crazy thing but um to get to the hat

1860
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:37,920
man this this guy okay because I know we

1861
01:28:43,390 --> 01:28:40,290
don't have that much time but always we

1862
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:43,400
got quite a bit well the Hat man is a

1863
01:28:48,169 --> 01:28:46,050
book in itself I wrote the book called

1864
01:28:52,669 --> 01:28:48,179
the hat man the true story - evil

1865
01:28:57,100 --> 01:28:52,679
encounters and the shadow people book is

1866
01:28:59,600 --> 01:28:57,110
called the secret war a true story about

1867
01:29:05,060 --> 01:28:59,610
shadow people in a real alien war

1868
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:05,070
essentially and the Hat man was just a

1869
01:29:11,390 --> 01:29:07,770
whole element that I just didn't

1870
01:29:14,500 --> 01:29:11,400
understand so this one night I woke up

1871
01:29:17,390 --> 01:29:14,510
to my college roommate Samantha

1872
01:29:20,839 --> 01:29:17,400
screaming at the top of her lungs and I

1873
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:20,849
was certain in this apartment she had a

1874
01:29:24,049 --> 01:29:22,770
door that opened in her bedroom that

1875
01:29:26,299 --> 01:29:24,059
opened to the porch

1876
01:29:28,850 --> 01:29:26,309
and she screamed to the top of her lungs

1877
01:29:32,419 --> 01:29:28,860
I'm thinking oh my gosh somebody's

1878
01:29:35,589 --> 01:29:32,429
killing her I wrote before I go in there

1879
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:35,599
and only to find her absolutely

1880
01:29:42,919 --> 01:29:39,650
petrified and cowered in a corner

1881
01:29:45,740 --> 01:29:42,929
shaking and pointing her finger saying

1882
01:29:46,819 --> 01:29:45,750
the man the man I'm like oh no I'm like

1883
01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:46,829
somebody broke out I'm checking the

1884
01:29:49,310 --> 01:29:48,000
windows a check in the door I'm like

1885
01:29:51,620 --> 01:29:49,320
where where where where to go where to

1886
01:29:52,910 --> 01:29:51,630
go and with her first words she's like

1887
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:52,920
no

1888
01:29:58,760 --> 01:29:54,690
he disappeared when you open the door

1889
01:30:01,939 --> 01:29:58,770
and I'm just like what you know and and

1890
01:30:05,689 --> 01:30:01,949
she went on to describe this man with a

1891
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:05,699
Gaucho hat trench coat three-piece suit

1892
01:30:16,130 --> 01:30:09,050
a change water on his hip

1893
01:30:18,350 --> 01:30:16,140
oh yeah and goatee and very pale and

1894
01:30:20,540 --> 01:30:18,360
she's like he was so real he would not

1895
01:30:23,390 --> 01:30:20,550
leave he was just standing there looking

1896
01:30:25,310 --> 01:30:23,400
at me and she she was just oh it gives

1897
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:25,320
me chills because I just remember the

1898
01:30:30,890 --> 01:30:29,040
horror of it and I'm like wow this must

1899
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:30,900
be another form that shadow people take

1900
01:30:38,510 --> 01:30:35,370
so I I put half man shadow on my website

1901
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:38,520
and almost immediately now this is a

1902
01:30:43,729 --> 01:30:41,250
freaky one too you know you'll dig this

1903
01:30:45,500 --> 01:30:43,739
story so I had just put all these images

1904
01:30:49,820 --> 01:30:45,510
on my website of the shadow people in

1905
01:30:50,810 --> 01:30:49,830
the hat man shadow and one of my sisters

1906
01:31:00,560 --> 01:30:50,820
I have six

1907
01:31:01,970 --> 01:31:00,570
she came over six sisters six sisters my

1908
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:01,980
younger sister were the youngest of all

1909
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:05,040
of them and and she comes over

1910
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:07,650
unannounced and she's a bit shaken up

1911
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:09,210
but I'm like too excited to show her my

1912
01:31:12,919 --> 01:31:11,610
new website and it's just like Heidi I

1913
01:31:14,300 --> 01:31:12,929
gotta talk to you about something I'm

1914
01:31:15,979 --> 01:31:14,310
like oh what a guy should I use it in my

1915
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:15,989
new site it's like Heidi something

1916
01:31:20,060 --> 01:31:17,850
happened and I'm like yeah yeah yeah and

1917
01:31:23,150 --> 01:31:20,070
I'm like cuz here's my new site and I

1918
01:31:26,959 --> 01:31:23,160
pull it up and she screams and points

1919
01:31:29,750 --> 01:31:26,969
that's him and I'm like oh what and

1920
01:31:31,550 --> 01:31:29,760
she's pointing at the hat man and I said

1921
01:31:33,979 --> 01:31:31,560
what are you talking about she's like

1922
01:31:39,979 --> 01:31:33,989
Heidi I went downstairs to get my

1923
01:31:43,430 --> 01:31:39,989
laundry and this thing huge just rose up

1924
01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:43,440
from the from behind her dryer she said

1925
01:31:47,810 --> 01:31:45,360
I don't think I touched us step on the

1926
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:47,820
way up she knocked her daughter over in

1927
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:50,250
the process ran outside screaming and

1928
01:31:55,610 --> 01:31:52,050
her daughter bring it out behind her

1929
01:31:58,580 --> 01:31:55,620
she's like oh no what I had seen and

1930
01:32:01,700 --> 01:31:58,590
then soon after that I don't know if was

1931
01:32:03,890 --> 01:32:01,710
the next day or something she's driving

1932
01:32:06,740 --> 01:32:03,900
and she looks in her rearview mirror and

1933
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:06,750
he's just as solid as anyone

1934
01:32:14,990 --> 01:32:13,410
with red glowing eyes it just like I see

1935
01:32:17,630 --> 01:32:15,000
ways in the backseat of the car I guess

1936
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:17,640
or something Maxie literally sing there

1937
01:32:23,690 --> 01:32:21,570
with the glowing red eyes and he was so

1938
01:32:26,060 --> 01:32:23,700
responsive it was as soon as I put his

1939
01:32:28,970 --> 01:32:26,070
image up on my site and he goes after

1940
01:32:29,780 --> 01:32:28,980
the sister I'm closest to I'm like what

1941
01:32:33,500 --> 01:32:29,790
the heck

1942
01:32:36,410 --> 01:32:33,510
you know how purposeful how unbelievable

1943
01:32:39,740 --> 01:32:36,420
and almost immediately the emails that I

1944
01:32:41,300 --> 01:32:39,750
received for the first shadow people and

1945
01:32:44,810 --> 01:32:41,310
the hat man when I put the hat in up

1946
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:44,820
there they were so different from shadow

1947
01:32:52,220 --> 01:32:48,690
people reports it was he came to me for

1948
01:32:54,140 --> 01:32:52,230
years he spoke to me he changes his hat

1949
01:32:57,410 --> 01:32:54,150
sometimes he takes his hat off I'm like

1950
01:32:59,300 --> 01:32:57,420
this is not a shadow person shadow

1951
01:33:01,400 --> 01:32:59,310
people take on different forms they're

1952
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:01,410
wispy I just saved hundreds of dollars

1953
01:33:06,230 --> 01:33:03,690
by switching to Geico I've never felt

1954
01:33:08,030 --> 01:33:06,240
more alive disclaimer Tyco cannot

1955
01:33:09,380 --> 01:33:08,040
guarantee you will feel more alive you

1956
01:33:11,180 --> 01:33:09,390
either possessed functioning respiratory

1957
01:33:12,530 --> 01:33:11,190
and circulatory systems or you do not or

1958
01:33:13,850 --> 01:33:12,540
you are a zombie if you are indeed a

1959
01:33:15,050 --> 01:33:13,860
brain starves on me and you would like

1960
01:33:16,250 --> 01:33:15,060
to save money on car insurance

1961
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:16,260
the Geico legal team applauds your

1962
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:17,730
excellent life choices even in your

1963
01:33:20,900 --> 01:33:19,290
shambling afterlife but we strongly

1964
01:33:22,220 --> 01:33:20,910
encourage you to visit geico.com or

1965
01:33:23,690 --> 01:33:22,230
download the Geico app please stay a

1966
01:33:25,340 --> 01:33:23,700
minimum of 500 feet away from our large

1967
01:33:27,980 --> 01:33:25,350
and presumably delicious delicious

1968
01:33:34,940 --> 01:33:27,990
brains Geico 15 minutes could save you

1969
01:33:38,060 --> 01:33:34,950
15% or more but man he wanted to be

1970
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:38,070
recognized he did not change he wanted

1971
01:33:43,700 --> 01:33:40,170
people to see who he was and he'd even

1972
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:43,710
introduce himself as a scratch which is

1973
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:47,130
an old norse term for the devil oh yeah

1974
01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:48,480
I see my remember that's them somewhere

1975
01:33:55,970 --> 01:33:54,000
yeah yeah so he his threats his going

1976
01:33:58,670 --> 01:33:55,980
into people's nightmares his beatings

1977
01:34:02,390 --> 01:33:58,680
his scratchings his bitings his raping

1978
01:34:06,170 --> 01:34:02,400
people is phenomenal went through the

1979
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:06,180
roof and and it's not just a possibility

1980
01:34:11,740 --> 01:34:08,730
that you'll see this guy at some point

1981
01:34:13,820 --> 01:34:11,750
in your life it's it's a threat he is

1982
01:34:17,870 --> 01:34:13,830
just so awful

1983
01:34:19,790 --> 01:34:17,880
and honestly I I think the worst out of

1984
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:19,800
it is when I hear from people who are

1985
01:34:23,150 --> 01:34:20,370
kid

1986
01:34:25,190 --> 01:34:23,160
who experienced him who yeah I was three

1987
01:34:27,740 --> 01:34:25,200
years old he used to terrorize me and

1988
01:34:29,930 --> 01:34:27,750
all the way through adulthood and it's

1989
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:29,940
like like and some people have like

1990
01:34:34,370 --> 01:34:32,730
relationships with him that they feel

1991
01:34:37,010 --> 01:34:34,380
protected even though they know he's

1992
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:37,020
evil and but he he makes sure that

1993
01:34:43,010 --> 01:34:40,650
they're under his wing and like I had

1994
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:43,020
one guy who said he terrified me and

1995
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:46,080
everything but my dad was abusive and

1996
01:34:53,530 --> 01:34:48,090
one time he knocked the crap out of him

1997
01:34:57,740 --> 01:34:53,540
I'm like oh hey so it's like how do you

1998
01:35:00,010 --> 01:34:57,750
this I mean I've gotten emails from all

1999
01:35:07,550 --> 01:35:00,020
over the world from the Philippines to

2000
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:07,560
Serbia about its planet-wide experience

2001
01:35:12,470 --> 01:35:08,490
basically Oh

2002
01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:12,480
for centuries and um you know I just uh

2003
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:15,450
I just that's why I felt it was so

2004
01:35:20,270 --> 01:35:18,330
important to get people to get right

2005
01:35:23,300 --> 01:35:20,280
with their faith because of one name

2006
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:23,310
that he responds to is Jesus he leaves

2007
01:35:29,780 --> 01:35:26,960
shadow people leave aliens that abduct

2008
01:35:33,170 --> 01:35:29,790
with the name of Jesus now if they're

2009
01:35:36,740 --> 01:35:33,180
just aliens what aliens do is yo the

2010
01:35:39,170 --> 01:35:36,750
aliens do is working yeah they do they

2011
01:35:41,570 --> 01:35:39,180
do yeah so it's like so what are we

2012
01:35:44,300 --> 01:35:41,580
talking about here why is why does this

2013
01:35:47,660 --> 01:35:44,310
work and you know I might show the

2014
01:35:51,950 --> 01:35:47,670
Outlander also an inception radio I had

2015
01:35:55,580 --> 01:35:51,960
Kathleen Mart and on and uh we spoke

2016
01:35:58,130 --> 01:35:55,590
because I I knew that alien abductions

2017
01:36:00,340 --> 01:35:58,140
it had the they're not being reported as

2018
01:36:05,540 --> 01:36:00,350
they once were and she's in charge of

2019
01:36:07,820 --> 01:36:05,550
MUFON alien abduction Oh reports yeah

2020
01:36:10,940 --> 01:36:07,830
yeah she's the niece of Betty and Barney

2021
01:36:12,830 --> 01:36:10,950
Hill I remember that part of it I didn't

2022
01:36:15,710 --> 01:36:12,840
know what her active function was now

2023
01:36:17,150 --> 01:36:15,720
but yeah so so people are not people are

2024
01:36:18,650 --> 01:36:17,160
not reporting these issues like they

2025
01:36:21,650 --> 01:36:18,660
used to is that it they're not reporting

2026
01:36:24,260 --> 01:36:21,660
the alien abductions and she in fact she

2027
01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:24,270
and I both spoke on how it's quite

2028
01:36:27,950 --> 01:36:25,920
demonic what's going on out there and

2029
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:27,960
I'm like that's something I wrote about

2030
01:36:33,490 --> 01:36:30,690
in my book the secret war the very first

2031
01:36:37,630 --> 01:36:33,500
book I wrote it in 97 and it's

2032
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:37,640
just forever been a problem with these

2033
01:36:42,310 --> 01:36:40,400
these evil entities disguise is saying

2034
01:36:45,070 --> 01:36:42,320
you know oh you know they're just little

2035
01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:45,080
creatures and UFOs know they're looking

2036
01:36:49,450 --> 01:36:47,450
to the soul of you and people have had

2037
01:36:52,630 --> 01:36:49,460
near-death experiences and at the end of

2038
01:36:55,990 --> 01:36:52,640
their tunnel are aliens so they're

2039
01:36:58,150 --> 01:36:56,000
messing with things and messing with I

2040
01:36:59,800 --> 01:36:58,160
guess maybe the maybe the pentecostal

2041
01:37:02,680 --> 01:36:59,810
types that we're talking about the UFO

2042
01:37:04,630 --> 01:37:02,690
people being a demonic content maybe

2043
01:37:10,090 --> 01:37:04,640
their demonic origin maybe that is true

2044
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:10,100
then yeah for sure I have to say it's

2045
01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:11,690
like you know the ones that abduct and

2046
01:37:14,500 --> 01:37:13,280
harm people those are the demonic ones

2047
01:37:16,420 --> 01:37:14,510
ones that you hear about the most

2048
01:37:18,190 --> 01:37:16,430
reptilians and greys praying mantis

2049
01:37:21,190 --> 01:37:18,200
those are demonic the ones that you

2050
01:37:22,900 --> 01:37:21,200
don't hear about are not because they're

2051
01:37:24,700 --> 01:37:22,910
not be they're not collabing people

2052
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:24,710
against their will they'll talk to you

2053
01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:27,650
about music Jesus name to combat these

2054
01:37:33,220 --> 01:37:30,560
things and how there's a war going on

2055
01:37:35,170 --> 01:37:33,230
between positive beings and these

2056
01:37:37,530 --> 01:37:35,180
negative ones and that's when I base

2057
01:37:40,540 --> 01:37:37,540
that first book the secret war on and

2058
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:40,550
you know I I just I'm I'm so a

2059
01:37:46,450 --> 01:37:43,250
ingredients O'Leary in regards to the

2060
01:37:49,090 --> 01:37:46,460
topic of half man because my emails used

2061
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:49,100
to be a hundred percent aliens then it

2062
01:37:56,020 --> 01:37:51,110
became a hundred percent shadow people I

2063
01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:56,030
put up the hat man's image it's like 90

2064
01:38:03,130 --> 01:38:00,080
95 percent now happen going on out there

2065
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:03,140
and he's so are you still still

2066
01:38:07,450 --> 01:38:06,170
bedeviled by this creature I don't have

2067
01:38:09,370 --> 01:38:07,460
any issues with him

2068
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:09,380
but I'll tell you this just before I put

2069
01:38:16,450 --> 01:38:13,010
the book out called the Hat man yeah he

2070
01:38:19,900 --> 01:38:16,460
was once again very responsive he showed

2071
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:22,870
10 10 15 minutes after talking about him

2072
01:38:27,730 --> 01:38:26,330
I practice as an occupational therapist

2073
01:38:30,670 --> 01:38:27,740
and I used to go to various facilities

2074
01:38:32,580 --> 01:38:30,680
and there'd be people whispering oh this

2075
01:38:34,630 --> 01:38:32,590
is the lady that writes those books and

2076
01:38:36,460 --> 01:38:34,640
and they're like so Heidi what are you

2077
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:36,470
write about and I mentioned briefly and

2078
01:38:41,860 --> 01:38:39,290
15 minutes later one of the therapists

2079
01:38:45,130 --> 01:38:41,870
had a patient down in the therapy gym

2080
01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:45,140
and physical therapist walking a patient

2081
01:38:50,290 --> 01:38:47,209
in the parallel bars

2082
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:50,300
and that patient started saying who is

2083
01:38:55,629 --> 01:38:53,840
the man in the black suit talking to me

2084
01:38:57,279 --> 01:38:55,639
in another language and he's pointing at

2085
01:39:00,100 --> 01:38:57,289
the mirror he's walking in front of

2086
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:00,110
she's the therapist screams it comes it

2087
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:02,090
comes and get me it just like look look

2088
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:04,489
look at what he's saying and and I'm

2089
01:39:08,319 --> 01:39:06,530
like and the guy's like don't act like

2090
01:39:09,609 --> 01:39:08,329
I'm crazy you know Sood I'm talking

2091
01:39:12,370 --> 01:39:09,619
about it's like who was that man and I'm

2092
01:39:15,189 --> 01:39:12,380
like Sara Libya find you do you see how

2093
01:39:16,959 --> 01:39:15,199
my knees like no I don't he's like but

2094
01:39:19,899 --> 01:39:16,969
now he's behind you and I'm like oh

2095
01:39:23,469 --> 01:39:19,909
great and then I bent down and I go sir

2096
01:39:25,779 --> 01:39:23,479
is he wearing a hat and he said I knew

2097
01:39:26,410 --> 01:39:25,789
you could see him yes of course he's got

2098
01:39:29,709 --> 01:39:26,420
a hat on

2099
01:39:31,449 --> 01:39:29,719
and I was just like oh my goodness like

2100
01:39:35,199 --> 01:39:31,459
he was that responsive

2101
01:39:38,529 --> 01:39:35,209
that's the Hat that's that's how evil

2102
01:39:40,660 --> 01:39:38,539
and so aware that is and and why people

2103
01:39:43,779 --> 01:39:40,670
have to get right with their their faith

2104
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:43,789
you know and and figuring it out before

2105
01:39:47,850 --> 01:39:45,530
something like that comes along so

2106
01:39:50,109 --> 01:39:47,860
you'll at least be prepared because

2107
01:39:53,620 --> 01:39:50,119
there's just no telling when and where

2108
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:53,630
he'll show up and I've had mass

2109
01:39:58,479 --> 01:39:57,130
sightings of him as far as families

2110
01:40:01,750 --> 01:39:58,489
spotting him

2111
01:40:06,489 --> 01:40:01,760
oh really kitchen and stuff oh yeah yes

2112
01:40:09,969 --> 01:40:06,499
horrible stuff so I just tell people to

2113
01:40:11,799 --> 01:40:09,979
take heed and bless their homes there is

2114
01:40:14,679 --> 01:40:11,809
a way to get out from under aliens

2115
01:40:18,069 --> 01:40:14,689
shadow people and hat man bless your

2116
01:40:20,229 --> 01:40:18,079
home figure your faith out and you know

2117
01:40:24,069 --> 01:40:20,239
don't have any doubts in that having

2118
01:40:25,839 --> 01:40:24,079
doubts gives them away in and right it's

2119
01:40:28,629 --> 01:40:25,849
it's just not healthy

2120
01:40:32,259 --> 01:40:28,639
so I don't know it's there's so much

2121
01:40:35,859 --> 01:40:32,269
that goes behind the paranormal and and

2122
01:40:38,229 --> 01:40:35,869
it some people they like to entertain

2123
01:40:39,370 --> 01:40:38,239
the thought they like to go in hey what

2124
01:40:39,790 --> 01:40:39,380
do you think about that with Ghost

2125
01:40:41,319 --> 01:40:39,800
Hunters

2126
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:41,329
Kevin it was this something you'd never

2127
01:40:47,259 --> 01:40:45,170
see yourself doing no no I wouldn't I

2128
01:40:51,009 --> 01:40:47,269
don't like chasing down the negative and

2129
01:40:54,540 --> 01:40:51,019
I could never see mucking about trying

2130
01:40:57,250 --> 01:40:54,550
to do it no and I mean the other

2131
01:40:59,410 --> 01:40:57,260
experience I had with that negative form

2132
01:41:01,060 --> 01:40:59,420
of paranormal was actually fairly

2133
01:41:02,979 --> 01:41:01,070
innocent on my part I was

2134
01:41:06,580 --> 01:41:02,989
just doing the Coogee curry exercises I

2135
01:41:09,459 --> 01:41:06,590
wasn't anything evil and communicative

2136
01:41:13,209 --> 01:41:09,469
anything evil or just what happened but

2137
01:41:14,410 --> 01:41:13,219
I guess the old saying about be careful

2138
01:41:15,609 --> 01:41:14,420
what you fool with cuz it can really

2139
01:41:18,910 --> 01:41:15,619
hurt you if you don't know what you're

2140
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:18,920
doing and just like the old Ouija board

2141
01:41:22,899 --> 01:41:21,050
issue from years ago

2142
01:41:27,729 --> 01:41:22,909
I guess I'm even them do they still make

2143
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:27,739
Ouija boards on yes they do still

2144
01:41:35,229 --> 01:41:32,090
telling doesn't go there Wow

2145
01:41:37,569 --> 01:41:35,239
well I mean as I mean even George Noory

2146
01:41:41,850 --> 01:41:37,579
on his shows mentioned and you know even

2147
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:41,860
love her because actually the older oh

2148
01:41:47,109 --> 01:41:45,050
the old Exorcist movie was based upon

2149
01:41:49,209 --> 01:41:47,119
somebody in st. Louis mucking about with

2150
01:41:55,959 --> 01:41:49,219
a region and that you know that's how

2151
01:41:57,339 --> 01:41:55,969
all that came about so players play with

2152
01:41:58,209 --> 01:41:57,349
stuff that you don't need to be playing

2153
01:42:03,899 --> 01:41:58,219
with it for sure

2154
01:42:07,450 --> 01:42:03,909
I carry aa s'ti killed the cat they say

2155
01:42:11,020 --> 01:42:07,460
well yes it really did and uh I don't

2156
01:42:12,729 --> 01:42:11,030
know like I say nori on his shows

2157
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:12,739
mentioned many times just leave that

2158
01:42:16,750 --> 01:42:15,290
stuff alone don't do that and it's sort

2159
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:16,760
of a jury what and you know and

2160
01:42:25,540 --> 01:42:18,290
Catholicism of course you're not

2161
01:42:29,140 --> 01:42:25,550
supposed to I recommend not doing I had

2162
01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:29,150
as a teenager and a little bit as an

2163
01:42:34,300 --> 01:42:32,480
adult but it was it's it's just so dark

2164
01:42:36,669 --> 01:42:34,310
and you don't know what you'll get when

2165
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:36,679
you miss or something like that and they

2166
01:42:41,410 --> 01:42:39,290
have Angel boards to Kevin Angel boards

2167
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:41,420
like like that's gonna bless whatever

2168
01:42:47,050 --> 01:42:44,810
comes through and not be evil but it's

2169
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:47,060
like we do I don't know I don't know

2170
01:42:52,060 --> 01:42:50,210
about that that sounds like it's you I

2171
01:42:53,950 --> 01:42:52,070
mean the whole idea like they say the

2172
01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:53,960
church the Catholic churches itself

2173
01:42:59,680 --> 01:42:56,480
doesn't recommend any dabbling in a

2174
01:43:01,510 --> 01:42:59,690
cultism for that reason I mean Anna now

2175
01:43:04,109 --> 01:43:01,520
chasing the ghost down and talk to them

2176
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:04,119
or anything like that don't do that and

2177
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:06,800
and that's why but for the same reason

2178
01:43:11,950 --> 01:43:08,210
and because you don't know what you're

2179
01:43:13,450 --> 01:43:11,960
fooling with and that that is Wow but I

2180
01:43:14,979 --> 01:43:13,460
hope that's lesson to people because I

2181
01:43:18,190 --> 01:43:14,989
sure would want to be bedeviled with

2182
01:43:21,220 --> 01:43:18,200
hanging in the corner at Kai's for

2183
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:21,230
anything else yeah I have I have it's I

2184
01:43:24,820 --> 01:43:23,210
have actually experienced an exorcism of

2185
01:43:29,290 --> 01:43:24,830
my own some 30 years ago

2186
01:43:30,910 --> 01:43:29,300
that's right did you live a - no but I

2187
01:43:35,979 --> 01:43:30,920
mean I could do some things that were

2188
01:43:38,979 --> 01:43:35,989
very scary yeah and and I used to

2189
01:43:41,590 --> 01:43:38,989
believe it or not it wasn't a very long

2190
01:43:43,660 --> 01:43:41,600
period before I had an exorcism but and

2191
01:43:46,290 --> 01:43:43,670
I was already a sturdy old Buzzard but I

2192
01:43:50,170 --> 01:43:46,300
would go to biker bars to pick fights

2193
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:50,180
and I would do things that were you know

2194
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:52,130
a sturdy guy or not I do stuff that was

2195
01:43:58,300 --> 01:43:56,210
way out of line like some guy was you

2196
01:44:00,580 --> 01:43:58,310
know huffing and puffing around and I

2197
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:00,590
would like you know he's like six-four

2198
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:02,810
six-five I just grabbed his arm I said

2199
01:44:08,170 --> 01:44:05,690
oh you must be real strong in a

2200
01:44:09,940 --> 01:44:08,180
sarcastic way and I grabbed his bicep so

2201
01:44:12,250 --> 01:44:09,950
hard he just fell to his knees and pain

2202
01:44:15,010 --> 01:44:12,260
you know this stuff like out of a movie

2203
01:44:17,860 --> 01:44:15,020
like out of a movie if you saw the The

2204
01:44:19,330 --> 01:44:17,870
Terminator the the our old Arnold

2205
01:44:22,330 --> 01:44:19,340
Schwarzenegger Terminator movie yeah

2206
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:22,340
yeah remember we grabbed a guy under the

2207
01:44:26,410 --> 01:44:23,840
neck and picked him up off the ground

2208
01:44:29,290 --> 01:44:26,420
with one hand right I did that I did

2209
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:29,300
that it was no more effort for me even

2210
01:44:35,910 --> 01:44:31,520
it was no more effort for me hi than

2211
01:44:38,979 --> 01:44:35,920
picking up a cup of coffee that's really

2212
01:44:40,900 --> 01:44:38,989
well I will say this not that I want to

2213
01:44:43,810 --> 01:44:40,910
ever happen again but when you are

2214
01:44:46,660 --> 01:44:43,820
possessed it is kind of amusing I mean

2215
01:44:48,910 --> 01:44:46,670
you know but there's a certain arrogance

2216
01:44:50,860 --> 01:44:48,920
that comes out of you like that's why I

2217
01:44:56,110 --> 01:44:50,870
said that to that guy like oh you must

2218
01:45:01,720 --> 01:44:56,120
be very strong and I actually cleared

2219
01:45:02,380 --> 01:45:01,730
the biker bar out like holy mackerel I'm

2220
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:02,390
out of here

2221
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:05,570
it was just stuff like that but like I

2222
01:45:10,090 --> 01:45:07,730
say it went away and that was fine but

2223
01:45:12,700 --> 01:45:10,100
it wasn't anything I'd ever want to ever

2224
01:45:14,830 --> 01:45:12,710
muck about again and I certainly would

2225
01:45:18,459 --> 01:45:14,840
never for the WETA for that would be the

2226
01:45:20,770 --> 01:45:18,469
last thing on earth I would do but it is

2227
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:20,780
odd it is a strange world but in

2228
01:45:28,509 --> 01:45:26,410
fairness though in retrospect you know I

2229
01:45:33,370 --> 01:45:28,519
you know I'm gonna

2230
01:45:34,899 --> 01:45:33,380
ever since and certainly not bedeviled

2231
01:45:38,620 --> 01:45:34,909
with any creatures or anything like that

2232
01:45:41,709 --> 01:45:38,630
and I don't plan on it so I do think if

2233
01:45:43,299 --> 01:45:41,719
you stay in prayer and I had read a good

2234
01:45:44,799 --> 01:45:43,309
spiritual life I think you'll be all

2235
01:45:49,930 --> 01:45:44,809
right and protected from that kind of

2236
01:45:52,839 --> 01:45:49,940
ruckus people who write me and that are

2237
01:45:55,390 --> 01:45:52,849
like we're Christians understand what's

2238
01:45:58,359 --> 01:45:55,400
going on and and I'm like whoa it's not

2239
01:46:00,879 --> 01:45:58,369
always that it's a tract of tea because

2240
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:00,889
you're rotten but much like a bug to a

2241
01:46:07,930 --> 01:46:05,570
light he does another is celebrating

2242
01:46:11,109 --> 01:46:07,940
others to be so light you know and

2243
01:46:12,700 --> 01:46:11,119
bright and positive so one other is

2244
01:46:17,109 --> 01:46:12,710
something that because are you familiar

2245
01:46:19,060 --> 01:46:17,119
with Padre Pio yes well see he was

2246
01:46:21,669 --> 01:46:19,070
actually bedeviled with some demons

2247
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:21,679
every now and again it wouldn't last but

2248
01:46:26,739 --> 01:46:23,570
I mean they pestered him every now and

2249
01:46:28,899 --> 01:46:26,749
then yeah but but of course it wasn't

2250
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:28,909
allowed to go on but I mean yes that's

2251
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:29,210
true

2252
01:46:37,089 --> 01:46:35,090
like you know I tell people take it as a

2253
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:37,099
compliment because it's it lets you know

2254
01:46:41,950 --> 01:46:38,690
that you're doing something right and

2255
01:46:45,029 --> 01:46:41,960
there's something really that they want

2256
01:46:47,410 --> 01:46:45,039
to possess and upset obsess over because

2257
01:46:49,989 --> 01:46:47,420
it's something that you can really help

2258
01:46:52,509 --> 01:46:49,999
Society and sometimes it's because if

2259
01:46:54,609 --> 01:46:52,519
people can see them that they want to

2260
01:46:56,500 --> 01:46:54,619
poke their eyes out essentially and shut

2261
01:47:00,459 --> 01:46:56,510
them up because they could warn others

2262
01:47:02,259 --> 01:47:00,469
to their presence and if you could see

2263
01:47:04,359 --> 01:47:02,269
your enemy you could prepare for them

2264
01:47:07,660 --> 01:47:04,369
and they don't like that so much just

2265
01:47:09,250 --> 01:47:07,670
out well it also underscores the of

2266
01:47:13,029 --> 01:47:09,260
their overall game plan it also

2267
01:47:15,609 --> 01:47:13,039
underscores a you know the more visible

2268
01:47:17,890 --> 01:47:15,619
understood they are then more people are

2269
01:47:20,229 --> 01:47:17,900
alerted and hopefully the more that

2270
01:47:23,739 --> 01:47:20,239
would turn back to Christ and religion

2271
01:47:26,020 --> 01:47:23,749
and so forth and they don't necessarily

2272
01:47:29,819 --> 01:47:26,030
want someone like you yet running off at

2273
01:47:33,250 --> 01:47:29,829
your yeah Quebec I guess I guess yeah

2274
01:47:35,979 --> 01:47:33,260
and alerting people basically but I

2275
01:47:38,020 --> 01:47:35,989
don't know Heidi it is it is I will say

2276
01:47:41,150 --> 01:47:38,030
this it is a strange world I know

2277
01:47:42,830 --> 01:47:41,160
there's plenty of good in it too but

2278
01:47:44,510 --> 01:47:42,840
was that old Ripley's Believe It or Not

2279
01:47:46,070 --> 01:47:44,520
life is stranger than it seems or

2280
01:47:53,410 --> 01:47:46,080
something like something old saying like

2281
01:47:58,250 --> 01:47:53,420
that it's a crazy world and but it's so

2282
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:58,260
in our faces lately of climate change

2283
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:01,440
negative things going on and and the

2284
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:04,890
normal anomalies going on and and Jesus

2285
01:48:11,420 --> 01:48:08,370
showing up in the middle least just to

2286
01:48:14,300 --> 01:48:11,430
so many people who others a nation now

2287
01:48:17,810 --> 01:48:14,310
that really wasn't of the Muslim faith

2288
01:48:19,970 --> 01:48:17,820
who are suddenly seeing Jesus just night

2289
01:48:22,190 --> 01:48:19,980
after night just not just one night but

2290
01:48:25,310 --> 01:48:22,200
he keeps coming to them until they look

2291
01:48:27,230 --> 01:48:25,320
into who he is and there's many converts

2292
01:48:29,630 --> 01:48:27,240
all of a sudden and it's like hold on it

2293
01:48:32,780 --> 01:48:29,640
happen and showing up Jesus is showing

2294
01:48:34,700 --> 01:48:32,790
up it there's so many changes going on

2295
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:34,710
the vibrations of the planet are

2296
01:48:38,030 --> 01:48:36,090
changing for crying out loud the

2297
01:48:39,890 --> 01:48:38,040
patterns of the planet as far as the

2298
01:48:42,170 --> 01:48:39,900
weather is changing so what what is

2299
01:48:44,630 --> 01:48:42,180
going on here so people need to really

2300
01:48:46,490 --> 01:48:44,640
take take and pay attention and I wanted

2301
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:46,500
to also let people know that if they're

2302
01:48:50,330 --> 01:48:47,850
experiencing anything out of the

2303
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:50,340
ordinary from Jesus encounters to shadow

2304
01:48:53,930 --> 01:48:50,730
people

2305
01:48:58,540 --> 01:48:53,940
aliens happen to go to my main website

2306
01:49:03,410 --> 01:48:58,550
which is Haight palace calm and again

2307
01:49:05,780 --> 01:49:03,420
right me my email is das Outlander at

2308
01:49:08,210 --> 01:49:05,790
gmail.com it's on the website and to

2309
01:49:11,090 --> 01:49:08,220
also you know everybody could use a

2310
01:49:12,710 --> 01:49:11,100
laugh I'm the comic strip and like it's

2311
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:12,720
a paranormal comic I don't think

2312
01:49:19,010 --> 01:49:14,610
anything is out there like it

2313
01:49:21,530 --> 01:49:19,020
so the Outlanders comic calm and you

2314
01:49:26,150 --> 01:49:21,540
know just try to get people to connect

2315
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:26,160
vent laugh enjoy enjoy this life instead

2316
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:28,170
of taking this all so darn serious all

2317
01:49:33,860 --> 01:49:31,170
the time and and to not let the dark

2318
01:49:36,980 --> 01:49:33,870
side win by letting them go silent on

2319
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:36,990
what it is they're experiencing well

2320
01:49:40,460 --> 01:49:38,730
that is true Heidi and that that's the

2321
01:49:43,940 --> 01:49:40,470
over all of it because the good is

2322
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:43,950
stronger than the demonic and you have

2323
01:49:49,220 --> 01:49:46,290
to remember that and I don't know it's

2324
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:49,230
just it is a strange one though it

2325
01:49:54,950 --> 01:49:52,290
really is and urge everybody also to

2326
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:54,960
listen to our show it's a I said

2327
01:50:00,560 --> 01:49:57,440
Radio Network at 9:00 p.m. Eastern and

2328
01:50:03,050 --> 01:50:00,570
that's we fo every Tuesday and we have a

2329
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:03,060
diverse little bunch of a guest coming

2330
01:50:07,940 --> 01:50:05,610
up yeah well we have fun with it and

2331
01:50:10,490 --> 01:50:07,950
I've got another on Friday inception

2332
01:50:14,030 --> 01:50:10,500
radio at 8:00 p.m. Central Standard Time

2333
01:50:14,660 --> 01:50:14,040
so we keep inception radio busy that's

2334
01:50:16,850 --> 01:50:14,670
for sure

2335
01:50:19,340 --> 01:50:16,860
we have fun with it oh we do we do and

2336
01:50:21,229 --> 01:50:19,350
we try to keep it you know varied it's

2337
01:50:23,900 --> 01:50:21,239
not the same old stuff all the time we

2338
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:23,910
try to write now of course unlike this

2339
01:50:29,180 --> 01:50:26,250
network we do have love political shows

2340
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:29,190
whose Ally the political is about as

2341
01:50:35,180 --> 01:50:32,330
bizarre as the paranormal these days I

2342
01:50:40,130 --> 01:50:35,190
mean I've never believed that and I

2343
01:50:42,020 --> 01:50:40,140
don't know it but it we do keep a keep

2344
01:50:45,590 --> 01:50:42,030
the posturing and I think we do a pretty

2345
01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:45,600
good job of it I really do but boy Heidi

2346
01:50:49,459 --> 01:50:47,280
you've really opened my eyes to a lot of

2347
01:50:51,860 --> 01:50:49,469
things tonight I'm you know you know uh

2348
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:51,870
poor little old girl experiencing all

2349
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:55,440
these metaphysical creatures and me

2350
01:51:07,040 --> 01:50:57,210
kicking around a bunch of bikers is kind

2351
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:07,050
of mild stuff compared to that that was

2352
01:51:12,410 --> 01:51:10,170
the highlight of all my encounters Jesus

2353
01:51:15,050 --> 01:51:12,420
encounters nothing beats that and that

2354
01:51:17,630 --> 01:51:15,060
book Jesus is no joke well yes I mean

2355
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:17,640
people check it out and you know there's

2356
01:51:24,500 --> 01:51:20,880
there's always a light side well it is

2357
01:51:27,979 --> 01:51:24,510
and the white the god side wins that's

2358
01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:27,989
true and the rest of it but it is odd

2359
01:51:32,260 --> 01:51:30,060
but I mean people don't realize I think

2360
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:32,270
that's the thing is people don't realize

2361
01:51:38,060 --> 01:51:35,010
the depth of all the things were exposed

2362
01:51:41,300 --> 01:51:38,070
to and frankly in world events like

2363
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:41,310
you're saying there are demons they're

2364
01:51:45,620 --> 01:51:43,770
very active and there's been stuff

2365
01:51:48,229 --> 01:51:45,630
that's so there have been things I don't

2366
01:51:51,590 --> 01:51:48,239
even bring up in the news pieces because

2367
01:51:53,300 --> 01:51:51,600
they're so exotic so evil that Heidi I

2368
01:51:56,060 --> 01:51:53,310
don't want to turn the listeners off I

2369
01:51:57,440 --> 01:51:56,070
mean maybe I should but I mean I've got

2370
01:51:59,900 --> 01:51:57,450
access to a lot of different stories

2371
01:52:01,670 --> 01:51:59,910
from a lot of different feeds and and

2372
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:01,680
there's stuff that would frankly upsets

2373
01:52:05,660 --> 01:52:03,930
people sensibilities if I let him know

2374
01:52:09,020 --> 01:52:05,670
about all these different things

2375
01:52:11,690 --> 01:52:09,030
I believe I stay away from them

2376
01:52:13,490 --> 01:52:11,700
try to deal with more you know light

2377
01:52:17,870 --> 01:52:13,500
issues and keep them entertained I'm not

2378
01:52:19,460 --> 01:52:17,880
understood scare men in the earth anyway

2379
01:52:21,110 --> 01:52:19,470
Heidi I guess we're coming to the end of

2380
01:52:23,480 --> 01:52:21,120
this show I guess it was a good one it

2381
01:52:30,190 --> 01:52:23,490
certainly was the different yeah I guess

2382
01:52:35,180 --> 01:52:31,520
okay

2383
01:52:38,630 --> 01:52:35,190
well it's good to be a host on your show

2384
01:52:42,510 --> 01:52:38,640
again and uh Epica can cherry uh I wish

2385
01:52:47,810 --> 01:52:46,009
[Music]

2386
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:47,820
thank you for being with us tonight

2387
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:50,249
please join us again next Monday evening

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01:52:54,500 --> 01:52:51,690
for extraordinary phenomena

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investigations Council's epic voyages

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I'm Roger peacock for epic until next

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[Music]

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